dogpenny it took me two days to complete the dream world puzzle...but what I found to be more easier was the triangle of three, like touching only three at a time in a triangle.

For example:
1
2 3 then go back to 1,2,3 until turn yellow, then white, keep doing this triangle of three all over with the color lights,if you have to sacrifies a white one to make another triangle do so..This puzzle takes a lot of time and patience, eventually you will get it, don't get discourage when sometimes they turn back to colors, just keep doing the triangle and eventually you will get the last one to turn yellow and then white..

this is the best way I know how to explain it..
Hopes it helps a bit.

Done the diverting with the water, everything is flowing to the right, except the one with the broken cogwheel, it has three paths of water..

The waterwheel on the stone plaze, the water flow is to the right..

The one with handle and rope is also flowing water to the right(cart)

Can someone take my save game and see if everything is right at this point..

Cause I been dunking the harvester about 10 times and nothing, I even added water inside the harvester and closed and brang it up and open the harvester and spill out water and nothing is happening.

Or if someone has a saved game at this point will be nice...can't get the harvester back to open, no matter what I do.

Liz,

Maybe you are misunderstanding WHERE you go to get into the secret workshop door.

The "back" of the harvester does not open. It is not where the secret door is.

The place you want to go is found by looking down in the pit where the harvester goes. Look on the right side of the pit... you should get a "forward" icon. Go down there and you'll see some stairs, and once you've emptied the water enough, you'll the access to the infamous door puzzle.

Let me know if you find this secret passageway.

Dadguy

I got the lights all white now am at the door. I cant get the colors to move when I click on a color a white line shoots out with a circle at the end where the color is to go. I have reset the puzzle several times and it is still the same I can only get one color to shoot a white line to the end of the small triangle on the door. The other colors will not move. The hand just taps them. How do I work the door lights?

Dogpenny,

You first click the color that you want to move, then click the destination that you want to move it TO.

The white line you are seeing is the game showing you ALL possible locations you can choose. You can see that you can only move to a spot where you are not blocked. To get the colors where you want them you may have to move things around several times to get a path open to where you want to go.

Dadguy

dogguy, finally got access to the stairs I knew I was looking in the right place for the stairs, I could see them even with water in the pool...

What I didn't notice, was that the waterwheel with the broken cogwheel there shouldn't be any water flowing there..I couldn't get the other waterwheel to stop the flow by the broken cogwheel..even if I turned them all right. So turned back all the waterwheels back to its original position...and started again, and then when I went back to the broken cogwheel, there was no water flow there, this is when I knew I got it right this time..

So when to the harvester, empty out some water, had access to the stairs, turned the wheel under a window, which opened a tunnel, went down, but the door was locked, so went back to harvester, empty some more water and went back down the stairs and the door was open..

Thank you dadguy for the help, you made me rethink and retrace my steps

Syd, I agree- those frequencies at the bomb site would have been helpful before!!! Which brings me to my question. I have solved spire and am now in serinia but I still don't understand the logic behind the frequencies used (the 6-12-4 etc.) I have the prima guide and used the map hint but it doesn't explain how you get them.I got all the notes from sirrus and the only one I thought made sense was the nara one which looked liked equal parts of 36 hence the 12-12-12. Guess being a CPA is no help- should have gone to science class more often.... Anyway if someone could explain to this very anal personality the rational I would greatly apreciate it... Thanx a mil
Margie

I'm in the memory chamber with all of the different color spheres. I have NO idea what I'm supposed to do.

I double checked the colors they were all right. Do they have to be in certain order on the door example inner red outer green and blue do they need to be in a certain place on the door and in order through the other inner colors?

TLC you have to touch them in triangle form to turn them to white. If you go out of the triangle the colors change on you. The colors you touch need to connect. Check out page 33 of this forum I was at a loss too until it was explained to me.

The dream world "changing colors to white".......I got my help from dadguy and gremlin and then after trial and error, all of a sudden it clicked. Just keep clicking.
I'll try to explain: I started with any 3 colors in a triangle, that where close to the center (Yeesha's). Hers is the one that when touched doesn't change.
So anyways, I worked that triangle of colors, by touching each one once as I worked the triangle. (one, two, three and one, two, three etc. Until one (sometimes two) turns white. But make sure the one(s) that turn white are close to the center white and close to all the other white ones you make.
Now before I confuse you too much, right down the colors red, purple, blue, aqua, green, yellow, and white. And like dadguy said: by knowing the order, you will know when a color is about to change to what color next; this is important!!!!!
Now for an example: say you have some white ones to your left, and you have a triangle of say green, blue and red; you look for the color that will get through the order and to white first. In this example, its green; so you click green first and then the other two. As you work the 3 color triangle, don't worry about the other two and what there changing to, cause your just waiting for your green to be white and join the others.
Then move to the next set of colors (that are next to the white ones) and repeat proceedure again.
In a matter of time my screen was white. But I was still missing one and I had to plow thru my whites to find it. In this case I hit a white that turns red and do it to two more so I have that triangle of red and work that triangle until it goes thru the colors to white and move on that way till I find the color that isn't done yet.
I hope this helps someone

Dogpenny,

Serenia workshop door puzzle:

I saw your post under Bert Jarmin's walkthrough topic. Unfortunately, each of us has a different color wheel arrangement from the Spire elevator medalion. You won't be able to see a photo solution that is universal in the walkthrough.

Have you read the other posts on this topic? There is a lot of good stuff.

For example, the colors from the medalion have a slightly different hue then on the door. Light Green on the medalion is actually yellow on the door. Purple on the medalion is actually pink on the door. So... maybe you don't have the inner ring correct after all?

Here is a picture of my solution:

SPOILER Image of workshop door solution !

Note that the six colors that are circled are the ones from my medalion in Spire. Note that the yellows were clearly light green in the medalion and the pink was clearly purple in the medalion. I arranged them in the same orientation as the medalion (i.e., red was at 6:00, blue was at 8:00, etc). Then finished the puzzle per the clue from dreamworld.

Hope this helps...

Dadguy

i am still stuck in the fireplace need help i read the solution boy i must be doing something wrong either that or iam just stupid wanna play getting a headache dianne

Dianne, check out page 11 (and also page 24 for an index to previous hints on various puzzles) for a solution to the fireplace puzzle.

Dadguy

dadguy.......I have finished myst IV and it was due to all the help you and others gave me.
And I mean no disrespect to others help, but I would just like to give a special thanks to you dadguy.......
Cause some puzzles took days and I wouldn't give up the challenge, and you where there by my side with your support.
Plus I've observed how you stick with this quest day in and day out helping everyone with every level of this game.
You should get a free game of myst V when it comes out.
I'll be checking back here too, to see if I can lend a hand.
Thanks again, your a special kind of boomer!!!

I am a bit confuse at the door puzzle...
When I pressed the medallion and get two sets of colors...for example I am getting a vision of inner blue,red,green-one set, the other is inner light blue,purple, yellow...

My question is. Is this my combination for the door puzzle, if so, at the door puzzle, you have 3 triangles on the top and at the bottom you have 3 more triangle, in which direction do you start, from left to right or from top to bottom..

For example, if I am going to put, inner blue, green, red, at the left top, what about the 2nd top, and the right top, are all the colors be the same, or do I have to switch them around..and do I do the same for the bottom triangle..

I know how to move them...

Liz

I'm in Serenia at the door with the colored marbles. I can't figure out what to do.

Serenia - Collecting Offering Spirit Guide

My spirit guide was water. I found the bubbles and carried one to a water guide and I saw a bright burst and lots of sparkles. Went back to Memory Chamber and nothing happened.

Has anyone else had this problem and if so, what did you do?

Ok I need some help with the Bathysphere Puzzle. I have went down the stairs, turned the wheel and opened the secret door. Now what? How do I get to that door? Does the door at the bottom of the stairs open?

Liz,

Serenia workshop door puzzle: Ultimate SPOILER below.

Take a look at the screenshot I posted about 5 posts above. Look carefully at it; it is the door puzzle SOLVED for my particular combination. The combination STARTS with the six colors in the medalion from the elevator in Spire. Each of us got a different set of colors from the medalion. SOLUTION:

1. Those six colors must be moved to the six positions that I have shown with a white circle around them in my screenshot. I put them in the same positions they had on the medalion.

2. The dream world clue tells us that we have to add two colors to the triangle of each of these six colors that when blended together, will form white. Blue-Red-Green is one combo. Yellow, light-blue, purple(pink) is the second.

3. So, after you have the six colors set, go to each triangle and augment with the correct additional two colors to satisfy the puzzle.

In the case of my screenshot, notice, the color at 6:00 was Red on the medalion, so I put Red there. Then I added Green and Blue to the other corners of that triangle. The color at 12:00 on the medalion was Yellow (actually looks light-green on the medalion), so I put Yellow at 12:00, then added Light-Blue and Pink (looks purple on the medalion).

I took care in making sure that colors were always in the same order in each triangle (that is, Red-Green-Blue or Yellow-Lightblue-Pink going clockwise, but I don't know if the game is that picky.

Got it? Good luck!

Dadguy

Jeepers, did you go UPSTAIRS behind the memory chamber?

Dadguy

Dragonia,

Yes, the door at the bottom of the stairs opens automatically when you empty a little more water.

Dadguy

Dadguy, I can't remember where the medallion in Spire is? How can I get back there?

TLC, there is a linking book to Tomahna back at the spot where you first linked in here. It's on the ground. It takes you to a yet unvisited area of Tomahna, so enjoy! You'll find your way back to the Spire linking book below Atrus' fireplace. The medalion will still be there on the elevator (near the top) assuming you haven't started working with someone elses savegame (where Spire is not complete) along the way.

Have fun!

Dadguy

Dadguy: How do I get the "little more water out? I have taken the bathysphere and dunked it, opened the door underwater, shut it, raised it split the water and repeated several times.