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The Dark List 2016
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07/24/16 06:10 PM
07/24/16 06:10 PM
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flotsam
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Hi ho
Now that the lighter side is done and dusted, welcome to our annual shady listing :zombie:
From today, you have 13 days to list 13 Dark Side games that other people should play. It doesn't matter what you list, so long as its dark, and you reckon someone should play it.
If a game made the light list, don't worry - there are shades of light and dark (which would be grey, of which there are 50 I am told) so those games aren't excluded here (even if you listed them over there) :woozy:
Even though its dark, there are rules:
1. You can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but are allowed to recommend less.
2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game.
3. Expansion packs, DLC, GOTY releases etc are all considered the same game - just vote for eg Fallout 3 and ignore all its available added on bits.
4. Consistent with 3, enhanced editions, directors cuts etc are also considered the same game.
5. Any "dark" game (ie not pure adventure or casual) can be listed, irrespective of genre.
6. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 fps' if you want to.
7. It is essentially a pc list (the system not the games), but given that many players have other systems, if you want to list some games for those go ahead.
If you can list alphabetically it helps me count, and please use full names if possible so I don't get them mixed up. I will ask if I get confused.
There has never been a list that hasn't given me something to play - looking forward to what it will be this year.:yes:
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: looney4labs]
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07/24/16 06:30 PM
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Mad
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OK. Thank you and here's mine, flotsam. Plenty of oldies - as with my "Light Side" list !!  Baldur’s Gate Divine Divinity Drakensang Gothic 2 Jade Empire Knights of the Old Republic Might & Magic 6 Morrowind Neverwinter Nights Planescape Torment Quest for Glory 4 Return to Krondor Risen 2
Time : The Most Precious Commodity
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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07/24/16 07:03 PM
07/24/16 07:03 PM
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Thanks flotsam!  This is going to take some thought, glad we've got 13 days.
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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07/25/16 02:57 AM
07/25/16 02:57 AM
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Carolin
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1. American McGee's Alice
2. Batman: Arkam Asylum
3. BloodRayne 2
4. Doom 3
5. Lego Lord of the Rings
6. Murdered: Soul Suspect
7. Morrowind
8. Oblivion
9. Onimusha 3
10. Rise of the Tomb Raider
11. Sanity: Aikens Artifact
12. Skyrim
13. Tomb Raider
- Not the old one, but the New they called relaunch of the series. Released 2013, I think, but I might be wrong on that one.
Caroline
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: Carolin]
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07/25/16 05:21 AM
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13. Tomb Raider
- Not the old one, but the New they called relaunch of the series. Released 2013, I think, but I might be wrong on that one.
Caroline I believe the title for this particular game is "Tomb Raider 2013" in order to differentiate between this and the original Tomb Raider.
You laugh because I'm different
I laugh because you're all the same
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
John
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
#1075658
07/26/16 03:23 PM
07/26/16 03:23 PM
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hagatha
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Hmm. This gets more and more difficult as the years go by.
Listing games I would happily dive back into today, irrespective of how many times I have played them:
Bioshock
Dishonored
Dragon Age Origins
Dragon Age Inquisitor
Fallout 3
Fallout 4
Gothic 2
Half Life 2
Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Star Wars Kotor
Witcher
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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07/27/16 03:48 PM
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My List Dragon Age Inquisition Fallout 4 Knights of the Old Republic Morrowind Rise of The Tomb Raider Risen 3 Tomb Raider 2013 Tomb Raider Underworld Sacred Skyrim Vampire The masquerade Bloodlines Witcher Witcher 3 And a couple that I would have liked to include but ran out of room   Bloodrayne 2 Divinity Original Sin
You laugh because I'm different
I laugh because you're all the same
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
John
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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07/27/16 05:53 PM
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So many to pic from arrrrggghhhh.  Assassin's Creed 3 Batman: Arkham Asylum Borderlands Crysis Darksiders Deus Ex Far Cry 4 Morrowind Planescape: Torment Remember Me Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic The Bard's Tale 1 Wolfenstein: The New Order
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: Marian]
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07/28/16 12:47 PM
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Anvil of Dawn looks like a good one Marian, I might have to give that one a try since it's only a few bucks over at GOG.
World of Xeen; is that a Might and Magic release?
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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07/28/16 07:33 PM
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here is mine:
Bioshock
Dead Space 2
Divine Divinity
ES Oblivion
Fallout 3
Half Life 2
Ico
Inside
Limbo
Outcast
Portal 2
SOMA
Witcher
Quantity has a quality all of its own
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
#1075998
07/28/16 11:21 PM
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hagatha
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Definitely have to try Borderlands and the latest Wolfenstein (I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed Return to Castle Wolfenstein).
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: hagatha]
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07/29/16 12:29 AM
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Borderlands is basically an FPS romp with a some RPG elements. The humor, unusual settings and interesting graphics keep it fresh. Bethesda did a good job with Wolfenstein: New Order, it can be very challenging at times and the story, especially the way it kicks off is very engaging. I have W:Old Blood, but haven't had a chance to play it yet.
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: Jarkeld]
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07/29/16 03:30 AM
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Mad
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" Anvil of Dawn looks like a good one Marian, I might have to give that one a try since it's only a few bucks over at GOG." I remember playing (or I should say attempting) that one many years ago !! 1995 -ish ????
Time : The Most Precious Commodity
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: Mad]
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07/29/16 12:58 PM
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kazzmo
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1. Condemned: Criminal Origins
2. Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
3. F.E.A.R.
4. Halo
5. Hellgate: London
6: Max Payne
7: Metro: Last Light
8: Morrowind
9: Skyrim
10: Witcher
11: Wolfenstein- The Old Blood
12: Wolfenstein: The New Order
13: Zanzarah
Brick walls do not a prison make, nor iron bars a cage. Give no thought of tomorrow, today was tomorrow and tomorrow will be today.
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: kazzmo]
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07/30/16 09:28 PM
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Creeping_Doom
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Diablo II
Dungeon Siege
F.E.A.R
Hunted : The Demon's Forge
Icewind Dale
Morrowind
Oblivion
Rage
Thief : Deadly Shadows
Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption
Witcher 2
Witcher 3
Last edited by Trail_Mystic; 07/30/16 10:03 PM. Reason: placed in alpha order
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
#1076828
08/03/16 06:50 PM
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Up to here - the Elder Scrolls games doing well. and Morrowind leads the way
Quantity has a quality all of its own
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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08/03/16 07:17 PM
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hagatha
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Good old Morrowind. Still awesome.
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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08/06/16 10:32 PM
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Hi all Two lists follows, the first showing placings the next being alphabetical and showing votes. Small numbers of votes, but first place is a clear winner, and shows the strength of the oldies but goodies. I have applied the rules re add-ons, GOTY etc, and tried to use full and correct titles for every game. This includes using 2 or II, whatever the game itself said. I took some liberties in the alphabetical list to reflect series. All the Tomb Raider versions though hurt my head. I haven't tried to use alternate titles, mainly because I don't know the games well enough, and some games have more than one (eg Fatal Frame) so I could never be sure I got them all. If I made an error in any of this just let me know and I will correct. Thanks for participating, and hopefully you will find something new to play in the next 12 months 
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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08/06/16 10:33 PM
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1 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
2 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
3 Divine Divinity, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Planescape Torment, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, The Witcher
4 F.E.A.R., Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven, Tomb Raider 2013, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Bioshock, Dishonoured, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Gothic II, Half-Life 2, Lands of Lore III, Quest for Glory I: So You Want to be a Hero, Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of
Darkness, Tomb Raider: Rise of the Tomb Raider, Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines, Wolfenstein: The New Order, World of Xeen
5 Age of Wonders III, Anvil of Dawn, American Magee’s Alice, Anachronox, Assassin’s Creed 3, Baldur’s Gate, Baldur’s Gate 2, The Bards Tale, Bloodrayne 2, Borderlands, Condemned: Criminal Origins, Crysis, Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc, Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, 1 Dark Souls, Darksiders, Dead Space 2, Deus Ex, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Diablo II, Doom 3, Dragon Age: Origins, Drakensang, Dungeon Keeper 2, Dungeon Siege, Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, Fallout: New Vegas, Farcry 4, Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly, Fatal Frame III: The Tormented, Firewatch, Game of Thrones (episodic), Halo, Hellgate: London, Heroine’s Quest, Hunted: The Demon’s Forge, Icewind Dale, Ico, Inside, Jade Empire, Kingdoms Rush, Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos, The Last of Us, Legend of Grimrock 2, Lego Lord of the Rings, Limbo, Mafia,Max Payne, Metro: Last Light, Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honour, Murdered: Soul Suspect, Neverwinter Nights, Onimusha 3, Outcast, Portal 2, Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire, Quest for Glory V: Dragonfire, Rage, Remember Me, Return to Krondor, Risen 2: Dark Waters, Risen 3: Titan Lords, Sacred, Sanity: Aiken’s Artifact, Secret World, Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, SOMA, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, The Sunless Sea, System Shock 2, Tales From the Borderlands (episodic), Thief: Deadly Shadows, This War of Mine, Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider: Underworld, Vampire Masquerade: Redemption, The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings, Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant, Wolfenstein: The Old Blood
Quantity has a quality all of its own
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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08/06/16 10:33 PM
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1 Age of Wonders III
1 Anvil of Dawn
1 American Magee’s Alice
1 Anachronox
1 Assassin’s Creed 3
1 Baldur’s Gate
1 Baldur’s Gate 2
1 The Bards Tale
2 Batman: Arkham Asylum
2 Bioshock
1 Bloodrayne 2
1 Borderlands
1 Condemned: Criminal Origins
1 Crysis
1 Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc
1 Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
1 Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
1 Dark Souls
1 Darksiders
1 Dead Space 2
1 Deus Ex
1 Deus Ex: Human Revolution
1 Diablo II
2 Dishonoured
4 Divine Divinity
1 Doom 3
1 Dragon Age: Origins
2 Dragon Age: Inquisition
1 Drakensang
1 Dungeon Keeper 2
1 Dungeon Siege
10 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
4 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
5 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
1 Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
2 Fallout 3
1 Fallout: New Vegas
2 Fallout 4
1 Farcry 4
1 Fatal Frame
1 Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly
1 Fatal Frame III: The Tormented
3 F.E.A.R.
1 Firewatch
1 Game of Thrones (episodic)
2 Gothic II
2 Half-Life 2
1 Halo
1 Hellgate: London
1 Heroine’s Quest
1 Hunted: The Demon’s Forge
1 Icewind Dale
1 Ico
1 Inside
1 Jade Empire
1 Kingdoms Rush
1 Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos
2 Lands of Lore III
1 The Last of Us
1 Legend of Grimrock 2
1 Lego Lord of the Rings
1 Limbo
1 Mafia
1 Max Payne
1 Metro: Last Light
3 Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven
1 Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honour
1 Murdered: Soul Suspect
1 Neverwinter Nights
1 Onimusha 3
1 Outcast
4 Planescape Torment
1 Portal 2
2 Quest for Glory I: So You Want to be a Hero
1 Quest for Glory II: Trial By Fire
2 Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness
1 Quest for Glory V: Dragonfire
1 Rage
1 Remember Me
1 Return to Krondor
1 Risen 2: Dark Waters
1 Risen 3: Titan Lords
1 Sacred
1 Sanity: Aiken’s Artifact
1 Secret World
1 Shadow of the Colossus
1 Silent Hill 2
1 Silent Hill 3
1 SOMA
1 S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl
4 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
1 The Sunless Sea
1 System Shock 2
1 Tales From the Borderlands (episodic)
1 Thief: Deadly Shadows
1 This War of Mine
1 Tomb Raider
3 Tomb Raider 2013
2 Tomb Raider: Rise of the Tomb Raider
1 Tomb Raider: Underworld
1 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption
2 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
4 The Witcher
1 The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
3 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
1 Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant
2 Wolfenstein: The New Order
1 Wolfenstein: The Old Blood
2 World of Xeen
3 Zanzarah
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Re: The Dark List
[Re: flotsam]
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08/07/16 12:07 AM
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Cool Morrowind keeps on keeping on. That was my very first RPG so I have a fondness for it. Plus I am definitely a Skyrimoholic having put in more hours in the game than I'd care to mention so glad to see it as number 2.
You laugh because I'm different
I laugh because you're all the same
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
John
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Appreciate all the work! 
