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2018 Darkside list
#1162513
09/07/18 08:45 PM
09/07/18 08:45 PM
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flotsam
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Hi all Now is the annual time to list those 13 Dark Side games that other people should play. It doesn't matter what you list, so long as its the type of game discussed here, and you reckon someone should play it. You get a bit longer this year. Its normally 13 days but I will be away so it will be more like 18. Plenty of time for plenty of people to take part! If a game made the light side list, don't worry - there are shades of light and dark so those games aren't excluded here (even if you listed them over there) Candle and Portal 2 spring to mind. Even though its dark, there are rules: 1. You can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but are allowed to recommend less. 2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game. 3. Expansion packs, DLC, GOTY releases etc are all considered the same game - just vote for eg Fallout 3 and ignore all its available added on bits. 4. Consistent with 3, enhanced editions, directors cuts etc are also considered the same game. 5. Any "dark" game (ie not pure adventure or casual) can be listed, irrespective of genre. 6. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 fps' if you want to. 7. It is essentially a pc list (the system not the games), but given that many players have other systems, if you want to list some games for those go ahead. If you can list alphabetically it helps me count, and please use full names if possible so I don't get them mixed up. I will ask if I get confused. See you in a couple of weeks 
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1162516
09/07/18 09:58 PM
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Trail_Mystic
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Thanks Flotsam! Safe Travels. Topic Stickied. 
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: Trail_Mystic]
#1162589
09/08/18 11:28 AM
09/08/18 11:28 AM
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United Kingdom
Mad
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Here are my picks  Baldur’s Gate Divine Divinity Gothic II [Night of the Raven] Hero U : Rogue to Redemption Jade Empire Knights of the Old Republic Might & Magic VI Morrowind Planescape Torment Quest for Glory IV Return to Krondor Risen Witcher [The]
Time : The Most Precious Commodity
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1162689
09/09/18 08:24 PM
09/09/18 08:24 PM
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Trail_Mystic
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Advent Rising Crysis Darksiders: Warmastered Edition Divinity: Original Sin 2 Dragonage: Origins Freedom Force Mirror’s Edge Pillars of Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Shadowrun: Hong Kong Spell Force 2 Tyranny Witcher 3: Wild Hunt  C'mon folks, even if you only have a few to list, go for it! It's not a requirement to list out a full 13, so if you're just a now-and-then Darkside player go ahead and put it out there. We don't bite, most of the time! 
Last edited by Trail_Mystic; 09/12/18 09:44 AM.
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1163038
09/13/18 11:46 PM
09/13/18 11:46 PM
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Canada
hagatha
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Sorry about the lurking...have company from Ontario this week.
Bioshock
Deus Ex Goty
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Age: Inquisitor
Dishonored
Fallout: New Vegas
Fallout 4
Half Life 2
Morrowind
Pillars of Eternity 2
Skyrim
System Shock 2
Witcher 3
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1163064
09/14/18 09:29 AM
09/14/18 09:29 AM
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Draclvr
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I know! I need to get my list posted... I am buried in tomatoes right now!
Gardens put to bed. Time for more reading and gaming.
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: Draclvr]
#1163107
09/14/18 05:27 PM
09/14/18 05:27 PM
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Trail_Mystic
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I know! I need to get my list posted... I am buried in tomatoes right now! Tomatoes, shmomatoes, let's get that list! 
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1163125
09/14/18 09:00 PM
09/14/18 09:00 PM
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Draclvr
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Maybe tomorrow! I'm up to 28 gallons of canned spaghetti sauce, chili sauce, salsa, pizza sauce and tomato soup!
Gardens put to bed. Time for more reading and gaming.
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1163416
09/17/18 09:02 PM
09/17/18 09:02 PM
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Draclvr
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American McGee's Alice
Bioshock 1
Bioshock 2
Clive Barker's Undying
Hobbit, The
Metro Last Light
Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor
Prey 1
Prey 2
SOMA
Vampire Bloodlines
Vampire The Last Masquerade
Witcher, The
Zanzarah
I'll probably think of others to add!
Gardens put to bed. Time for more reading and gaming.
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: Jenny100]
#1163919
09/23/18 06:10 PM
09/23/18 06:10 PM
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Trail_Mystic
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Is there a reason why the Darkside list doesn't have a
"Hall of Fame" like the Adventure list?
Also a maximum of only 13 games per list compared to 20?
Hey Jenny, I don't know if there was a Hall of Fame list in the past and never thought to do one. The forum participation here is rather light, a very small percentage of the overall forum population. Also, of those that do participate, the majority split their time between Adventure games and our genres. As a result, the recommendations on a "Hall of Fame" would be a little skewed and probably not change much from year to year. That said, I'd be happy to put one together. The number selected (13) was done before my time, but I believe it's partially due to the aforementioned. Only a few members are dedicated Darkside players, so the number to contribute was lowered. Thirteen was selected due to it's "dark" connotation. TM
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1163923
09/23/18 07:13 PM
09/23/18 07:13 PM
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Draclvr
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I think a Hall of Fame would kind of defeat the purpose in this particular forum for exactly the reasons you state, Trail.
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[Re: Trail_Mystic]
#1163934
09/23/18 08:59 PM
09/23/18 08:59 PM
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southeast USA
Jenny100
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The number selected (13) was done before my time, but I believe it's partially due to the aforementioned. Only a few members are dedicated Darkside players, so the number to contribute was lowered. Thirteen was selected due to it's "dark" connotation. I was thinking about how many more Darkside games there are compared to the number of adventure games.
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1164441
09/28/18 07:48 PM
09/28/18 07:48 PM
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Long Beach, Australia
flotsam
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Hi there
I am back - lets say 48 hours then I count!!
Quantity has a quality all of its own
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1164444
09/28/18 08:49 PM
09/28/18 08:49 PM
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Trail_Mystic
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Hey flotsam, nice to see you made it back safely I just threw a posting out on the Adventure games forum to see if we could stir up any participation for those on that side of the boat that might like the occasional Darkside game. So, yeah, giving it a couple more days would be a good thing. Thanks!
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1164446
09/28/18 09:08 PM
09/28/18 09:08 PM
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In the Naughty Corner
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American McGees Alice
Beyond Divinity
Bioshock
Bioshock 2
Clive Barkers Undying
Divine Divinity
Drakan: Order of the Flame
Fable
F.E.A.R
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition
Prey
Sacred Plus
Zanzarah
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1164502
09/30/18 05:59 AM
09/30/18 05:59 AM
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Long Beach, Australia
flotsam
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12 hours or so to go!
Her is mine:
Bioshock
Dead Space 2
Divine Divinity
ES Oblivion
Fallout 4
Half Life 2
Inside
Limbo
Outcast
Portal 2
Candle
SOMA
Witcher
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1164508
09/30/18 09:46 AM
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Draclvr
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I'm curious about SOMA! It is unquestionable one of my favorite games and I thought of including it here, but is it a Darkside game or not!!
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: Draclvr]
#1164514
09/30/18 10:07 AM
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Trail_Mystic
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I'm curious about SOMA! It is unquestionable one of my favorite games and I thought of including it here, but is it a Darkside game or not!! I would say yes. SOMA is classified as Survival-Horror, which is a sub-class of Action/Adventure. According to the powers that be, the first game (which is usually the definer of the genre/class) to be given the classification of Survival Horror was Resident Evil, which is most definitely a Darkside game. Other examples of that sub-class include Alien: Isolation, The Evil Within and Dead Space, all Darkside games. TM
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1164547
09/30/18 07:52 PM
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flotsam
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Hi all (and Draclvr especially)
I have a question before finalising the count about the following two listings
Vampire Bloodlines
Vampire The Last Masquerade
I am aware of redemption and bloodlines being Masquerade games, and am not sure if that is what is meant by these, or if it is something else. Googling didn't help me.
And Iceland is awesome!
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
[Re: flotsam]
#1164567
09/30/18 10:31 PM
09/30/18 10:31 PM
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flotsam
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Hi all A list of placings follows. Oldies but goodies reign. I have applied the rules re add-ons, GOTY etc, and added some numbers to identify the production order, given some titles (eg Thief) can be confusing). I took Prey to be the original, and Prey 2 to be the 2017 version but if I am wrong let me know and I will adjust. Ditto any other errors. Thanks for participating, and hopefully you will find something new to play in the next 12 months  1 Divine Divinity, The Witcher 2 Bioshock 3 American Magee’s Alice, Dragon Age: Origins, The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind, Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Zanzarah 4 Anachronox, Bioshock 2, Clive Barker’s Undying, Deus Ex, Dishonoured, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Drakan: Order of the Flame, The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout 4, Gothic 2: Night of the Raven, Half-Life 2, Pillars of Eternity, Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire, Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness, Return to Krondor, System Shock 2, Vampire Masquerade 2: Bloodlines 5 Alien: Isolation, Advent Rising, Anvil of Dawn, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, Auralux: Constellations, Avadon: The Corruption, Baldur’s Gate 1, Baldur’s Gate 2, Beyond Divinity, Beyond Good and Evil, Candle, Creatures, Crysis, Darksiders: Warmastered Edition, Dawn's Light, Dead Space 2, Deus Ex 2: Invisible World, Deus Ex 6: Mankind Divided, Dishonoured 2, Divinity: Original Sin, Divinity: Original Sin 2, Dragonriders of Pern, Dungeon Keeper 2, Dungeon Siege, The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, Elex, Enderal, Fable, F.E.A.R., Freedom Force, Gas Guzzlers Extreme, Hero U : Rogue to Redemption, Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition, The Hobbit, Inside, Jade Empire, LA Noir, Lands of Lore 3, Limbo, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning, The Last Tinker: City of Colours, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect , Mass Effect 3, Mass Effect 4: Andromeda, Metro: Last Light, Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour, Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor, Mirror’s Edge, Mousecraft, Neverwinter Nights, Outcast, Planescape Torment, Police Quest: Swat 2, Portal 2, Prey, Prey 2, Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to be a Hero, Risen, Sacred, Shadowrun: Hong Kong, Shadow Warrier, SOMA, Spell Force 2, Super Panda Adventures, Thief 1: The Dark Project, Thief 2: Metal Age, Thief 3: Deadly Shadows, Thief 4, Toki Tori 2+, Tomb Raider, TRON 2.0, Tyranny, Two Worlds, Vampire Masquerade 1: Redemption, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1164582
10/01/18 04:45 AM
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Re: this years dark list - HEY, Stop lurking and start listing! :-)
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#1164613
10/01/18 09:34 AM
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Draclvr
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Thank you, Flotsam! Same here, Marian. Now to pick out some recommendations to play!
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#1164687
10/01/18 05:05 PM
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Trail_Mystic
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Thank you flotsam! TM
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!”
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Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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