The List - It Begins 2023
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Hi all As foreshadowed, it’s been a while (5 years or so) since we have done a list, and so (and based on some earlier consultation) we thought we would bring it back, but with a bit of a twist. First things first: we are adding Tex Murphy: Tesla Effect to the Hall of Fame (HOF). It featured prominently in our earlier lists ever since it was released and came first more than once. Plus Tex deserves to be in there. Our HOF is therefore: Amerzone Black Mirror Broken Sword 1 (Circle of Blood, Shadow of the Templars) Dark Fall: The Journal Dreamfall Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers Gabriel Knight: The Beast Within Grim Fandango Longest Journey Lost Crown Lost Horizon Myst Riven Sanitarium Still Life Syberia Syberia 2 Tex Murphy: Tesla Effect Timelapse Zork Nemesis Zork Grand Inquisitor Plus Isabelle of course, but that goes without saying With respect to the lists, the idea behind them is to help other boomers work out what they might want to play next. The collective wisdom of all of us helps identify various possibilities. Essentially, you are answering the question "if I want to play an adventure game, what would you recommend." That is still the objective with this list, but between the HOF and the previous lists we have a lot of recommendations about what are essentially 'older' games. With this list we therefore want to try and unearth some more recent games. On that basis the rules (there are always rules) are as follows: - you can list up to 10 games - 5 of those can be released whenever ('old' games - ignore the HOF games because we already know about them) - the other 5 need to have been released in the last 5 years ('new' games) You don't have to list 10 if you only want to recommend a couple, nor do you have to list equal numbers of old and new. Feel free to list 10 new games, or just 5 old games, or 5 old games and 3 new ones. Whatever suits, but no more than 5 old ones. As far as "released in the last 5 years" is concerned, take it as being any game released in 2018 to the current date. That picks up a bit of overlap with our last list/s and everything since. The 'years' tab here and our own list of latest releases here will assist. When you list, can you please try and list alphabetically as it aids in the tabulation. In doing so, ignore 'the' (so The Dark Eye would be listed under 'D' for dark). The list will stay open for about three weeks, and I will post updates as we go. Who wants to go first?
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/06/23 01:57 PM
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Carol Reed : Birdwatcher Carol Reed : Fall of April Carol Reed : Geospots Nick Bounty 3 Willy Morgan and the Curse of Bone Town Carol Reed : Quarantine Diary Carol Reed : Amos Green's Final Repose I have purchased quite a lot more than I've listed here but they are still sitting on my "yet to play" pile !!
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/06/23 02:51 PM
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Well Uncle Reg you are absolutely right about Gordian Rooms 2 no more point and click and I Do not like WASD keys nor controller although I have a decent one the movements make me sea sick and I would imagine I would Not be able to play the Actual game since They Cranked up the Video Card requirements, Gee-sus are some of these Devs. in Cahoots with the Video Card Companies? So needless to say I Removed GR2 from my Wishlist.
Let me know what you think of Meridian prologue.
Oh one last thing re: The Eyes of Ara, did you manage to find All the blue? gems to unlock the bonus Chapter, I missed 2 of them so on my next replay I will have to follow a WT from time to time to collect them all.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/06/23 03:18 PM
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Arthur's Knights: Tales of Chivalry Arthur's Knights: Secrets of Merlin Carol Reed: Amos Green's Final Repose Carol Reed: Quarantine Diary Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern Dust: A Tale of the Wired West Excavation of Hob's Barrow, The Shivers Willy Morgan and the Curse of Bone Town Thank you so much for doing this, flotsam!
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/08/23 06:06 AM
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Thanks for bringing The List back, flotsam.
Beyond a Steel Sky Call of the Sea Dreamfall Chapters Encodya Memoria Slice of Sea Syberia 4: The World Before Truberbrook Unforseen Incidents Yoomurjak's Ring
It was difficult to leave off Carol Reed games, House of Da Vinci games and all the Room games, but with only 10 spots I thought most of those reading the results of The List already will know of those great games. Just my preference, but I see why they are included on many lists.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/08/23 08:20 AM
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Call of the Sea Carol Reed: Amos Green's Final Repose Excavation of Hob's Barrow Kathy Rain Little Nightmares Pinstripe Psychonauts Strangelands The Room 2 Unavowed I know this #11 can't count but Gorogoa needs a shout out.
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody Gibran
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/08/23 11:07 PM
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Beast Inside Black Dahlia Burnhouse Lane Dark Fall: Ghost Vigil Phantasmagoria Phantasmagoria 2 Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened 2023 Shivers Shivers 2 Someday You'll Return
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/09/23 04:29 PM
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Can it really be true that there are no Monkey Island games in the HOF? Monkey Island 1-3 Discworld 1 Simon the Sorcerer 1 Tales of Monkey Island Return to Monkey Island Syberia 4 Deponia Doomsday Red Dead Redemption 2 Sea of Thieves: The Legend of Monkey Island is due out July 20th.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/12/23 02:21 PM
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Well I, too, could list hundreds of older games that I would absolutely recommend - but after reading flotsam's preferences I stuck to much more recent releases. And the majority of my more recent purchases I haven't yet played .... hence my paltry offering !!
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/12/23 05:42 PM
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Here's my list.
The Eyes of Ara The House of Da Vinci The Room The Room 2 The Room 3 The Room 4 Syberia 4 (The World Before) Gorogoa Drowned God
Most of you will REALLY question "Drowned God," but I still remember vividly how impressed I was at the time (1996). If it still has interest after nearly thirty years, I have to include it here. Thanks for the opportunity.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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Flotsam, I have a question. It was brought to my attention that platform games are not considered Adventure games. If this is true can I revise my list ???
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody Gibran
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/13/23 07:31 AM
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I have played all the games I have listed. I enjoyed every one of them. They have very postive reviews or better except for one, Haven Moon. I do not agree with the negativity nor did I have any problems running it. Out of all those declared "Myst Like" games I felt this was the closest "Myst Like" I have ever played. Nice game if you have not tried it Another Tomorrow - 2022 Haven Moon - 2016 - A nice review of the game and a good number of Screenshots - click on a certain area to enlarge that view Inside Depth 6 - 2021 MYST VR - 2021 - Runs in both Standard and VR modes. I was able to play this in VR. It was an awesome experience, one I will never forget. ScreenshotsProminence - 2015 - One of the best Sci Fi's I have ever played. Take a look at that 2nd video - owner / developer explaining features and overall vision of Prominence before release Quern - Undying Thoughts - 2016 SOMA - 2015 Syberia: The World Before - 2022 The Descendant - 2016 Titan Station - 2022 2018 HOF
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/15/23 09:34 PM
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Winfrey, feel free to revise but I think a bit of actiony adventure is ok. And I understand what you say about Drowned God TH; I loved the conspiracy-babble and the sometimes diabolical puzzle solving that accompanied it.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/16/23 05:35 PM
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I'm always lagging behind in my game playing, but all the games here I've played within the past 10 years. Like most of us, there are many others I could have added, but I settled on these because each one has something unique that makes it unforgettable to me, whether it's the laugh-out-loud humor, spooky atmosphere, different gameplay, memorable characters, lovely puzzles, great stories, or any combination of these characteristics that can make a game special.
Anyway, for this moment in time, these are my choices:
Callahan’s Crosstime Saloon (1997) Detective Di: The Silk Rose Murders (2019) Excavation of Hob’s Barrow, The (2022) Eyes of Ara, The (2016) Goetia (2016) Gorogoa (Win: Dec. 2017, Mac: 2018) Longing, The (2020) Papetura (2021) Paradigm (2017) Shivers (1995)
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/17/23 09:59 AM
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Good Morning, Oldbroad; Just a quick "Thanks" for adding PARADISE to your list. I never have included it on mine because I thought I was the only other player that actually liked that game.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/17/23 04:44 PM
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Thank you. Loaded up the "Trial" on W10 and it is running just fine. My kinda game. Looks good. Thanks again
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/18/23 08:01 AM
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Good Morning, all; This is a quick and pointless comment, but I have followed this list for a long time and am really surprised to finally notice that URU has never been formally placed on it. I still consider it one of my three favorite games, and by far the most beautiful. I still play it often and simply wander from point to point, making sure I return to the museum every time. Is there anyone who has placed URU either extremely high or extremely low on their "Favorites" list? I'd love a few new thoughts on that game.
If all the people were heroes, there would be no one to watch the parades.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/19/23 11:25 PM
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Here is mine Creaks Forgotten Anne Gorogoa Hob's Barrow Lumino City The Next Big Thing Papetura SOMA Strangeland Thimbleweed Park
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Re: The List - It Begins
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I'm a long time fan of your website but a new member of the forum. I've been playing adventure games for over 35 years with over 300 games played. Anyway, here's my list with 5 old and 5 new games. Amnesia Rebirth adventure mode Black Dahlia Meridian 157 Myst 3 Exile Myst 4 Revelation Obduction Quern: Undying thoughts Roki Shadow of the Tomb Raider Syberia: world before
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Re: The List - It Begins
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07/26/23 06:49 PM
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HI all I reckon another week and then I will tally up the results and produce a list of things we might all play. So not too late to add your suggestions!
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Re: The List - It Begins
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My list
Beyond A Steel Sky Carol Reed Quarantine Diary Dragon Riders Chronicles of Pern Julia Among the Stars Syberia The World Before Unforseen Incidents
"Do you understand me?" Serena Joy
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Re: The List - It Begins
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I really enjoyed J.U.L.I.A.: Among the Stars aretha. One of a kind for sure. Your reminding me of J.u.l.i.a. has me wanting to play it again. Forgot all about this one. Great game! **** These HOF suggestions have done their job as far as I am concerned. I have already purchased some listed just because of this thread, Beyond a Steel Sky being one of them. Absolutely loved Beneath a Steel Sky but have held off on getting Beyond. Having been mentioned more than once here I decided to get it. I hope I enjoy it just like I did the first Steel Sky Well done here. Thank you Past Annual Game Recommendations
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Re: The List - It Begins
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Birth Boxville Fran Bow Gorogoa Journey Landlord of the Woods Luna The Shadow Dust :THE LONGING: One Way: The Elevator Papetura
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Re: The List - It Begins
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Last couple of days so list now if you still intend to.
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Re: The List - It Begins
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08/07/23 07:37 PM
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Hi all Thanks to you all who listed games this time. I have already bought three games, which I possibly won't ever have time to play The list that follows starts with the most mentioned game - there was a clear number 1, listed by just over a third of all respondents - and then groups the games in order of the number of listings. I have taken some liberties with the names to try and indicate where a game comes in a series, and have used full names when I have known them. There are about 130 games listed, and as I say each time, every game is arguably worth playing, having been recommended by at least one other boomer. Some of the titles are a bit actiony, so check out reviews etc before purchasing. I hope it helps and thanks again Syberia 4: The World Before The Excavation of Hob's Barrow, Willy Morgan and the Curse of Bone Town Call of the Sea, Gorogoa, The House Of Da Vinci, Shivers Beyond a Steel Sky, Carol Reed 16: Quarantine Diary, Carol Reed 17: Amos Green's Final Repose, The Eyes of Ara, LUNA: The Shadow Dust, Monkey Island (2022): Return to Monkey Island, Papetura, Quern: Undying Thoughts, The Room 2 Black Dahlia, Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern, Encodya, Forgotten Anne, Haven Moon, The House Of Da Vinci 2, The House Of Da Vinci 3, The Longing, Meridian 157 Chapter 1, Phantasmagoria, Prominence, The Room, The Room 3, The Room 4: Old Sins, Shivers Two: Harvest of Souls, SOMA, Strangeland, Unforeseen Incidents Agent A: A Puzzle In Disguise, Amnesia 4: Rebirth, Another Tomorrow, Arthur's Knights: Tales of Chivalry, Arthur's Knights 2: The Secrets of Merlin, Aura: Fate of the Ages, Beast Inside, Birth, Blade Runner, Boxville, Burnhouse Lane, Callahan’s Crosstime Saloon, Carol Reed 13: Birdwatcher, Carol Reed 14: Fall of April, Carol Reed 15: Geospots, Carol Reed 18: The Game Maker, Cat and Ghostly Road, Conway: Disappearance at Dahlia View, Creaks, Crowns & Pawns, The Dame Was Loaded, Dark Fall: Ghost Vigil, Deponia Doomsday, The Descendant, Detective Di: The Silk Rose Murders, Discworld 1, Doors: Paradox, Dreamfall Chapters, Drowned God, Dust: A Tale of the Wired West, Face Noir, Fran Bow, Goetia, Ghost On The Shore, Gordian Rooms 1: A Curious Heritage, The Hand of Glory, Inside Depth 6, Jack the Ripper, Jenny Le Clue, JULIA: Among the Stars, Journey, Kathy Rain, Kings Quest 4: The Perils of Rosella, Lake Ridden, Landlord of the Woods, The Last Campfire, Little Nightmares, Lost in Play, Lumino City, Machinika Museum, The Medium, Memoria, Meridian 157 Chapter 2, Meridien 157 Chapter 3, Meridien 157 Prologue, Moebius: Empire Rising, Monkey Island 1: The Secret of Monkey Island, Monkey Island 2: Le Chick’s Revenge, Monkey Island 3: Curse of Monkey Island, Monkey Island: Tales of Monkey Island (episodic), Myst VR, Myst 3: Exile, Myst 4: Revelation, Mysterious Journey 3: Nemezis, The Next Big Thing, Nick Bounty 3: The Goat in the Grey Fedora, Obduction, Observer: System Redux, One Way: The Elevator, Paradigm, Paradise, Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle of Flesh, Pinstripe, Police Quest 4: Open Season, Psychonauts, Red Dead Redemption 2, Roki, Secrets of Da Vinci: The Forbidden Manuscript, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened 2023, Simon the Sorcerer 1, Slice of Sea, Someday You'll Return, State of Mind, Syberia 3, Tex Murphy 3: Under A Killing Moon, Tex Murphy 4: Pandora Directive, Tex Murphy 5: Overseer, Telling Lies, Thimbleweed Park, Titan Station, Truberbrook, Unavowed, Veritas, Yoomurjak's Ring
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Re: The List - It Begins
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08/07/23 09:19 PM
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Thank you, flotsam! This is a pretty excellent list!
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Yes, thank you flotsam, and to those who posted lists. I don't have all of these games but I do have most of them, so it looks like I have a lot of good gaming ahead if and when I ever get to them.
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Top Notch flotsam - and thank you very much indeed [I have a fair few of the newer games but just haven't played them yet - and I have zillions of the older ones and could recommend so many of them !!]
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Re: The List - It Begins
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Excellent job flotsam. Thank you. There are a number of games I have not heard of. I will take a look them first
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Thank you , flotsam for all the effort you put into putting this together for us, much appreciated 😍
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody Gibran
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