Thanks Smiley, I'll check it out.

Lucca, isn't Nathanial a Nec and now promoted to Lich. I put liche jars in his inventory and still didn't get any response. Maybe I need to see someone else.

I've follow the steps on the note in my inventory to pull the levers to drain water to free minotaurs and nothing happens. It says to reset A and nothing, so I went through it again and nothing. Is there a trick to this. Thanks.

Pat, yeah it's Vetrinus Taleshire not Lathaen who promotes you to Lich. He lives just opposite the inn in Shadowspire. Actually, if you're like level 40 you can just get Taleshire to go with you. He's got grandmaster elemental and dark magic. That's what I did. When I finished the game I had my elf, two dragons, Taleshire and a Vampire.

Did you pull the lowest lever in the end? I can't think what it might be besides that.

Hey Slayer, as I assessed things about my game I think I already did the lich jars and have already been promoted to Lich. Not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but I keep getting multiple quest items, e.g. the puzzle box, the drums the sword. It keeps getting me confused as to what I've done and not done. I am going to check quests finished/complete and get rid of these extras because I have lots of them.

I thought the lowest lever was A, but I think I'm not understanding that. What is the lowest lever? meanwhile I'll go on to something else. Thanks!

Hi all,

Well I got myself a dragon, got the dragons to join the alliance, now this one dragon tells me that I have to kill all the Dragon Slayers. So I went out and killed all that I can see and all that I can't see, I got the sword of the leader and this Dragon still tells me that I haven't killed them all. Does anyone know where they could be hiding? I sure can't find any more.

Do I have to enter the Dragon Hunter's castle and kill all of them also?

Hmmmmmmmm

I placed the ashes in the tomb and found Cauri--that was tough. I am confused about the dragon quests. One dragon wants the dragon killers in the wilderness killed and the leader wants all of them killed. Which one gains Grand Wyrm? It looks like I need the sword from just the wilderness camp. Neither the dragon or Quixote has mentioned a dragon egg. When do I get that quest? I have finished everything up to that point and was asked to form an alliance.

Hi again,

Well I killed all the Dragon hunters in the Castle or whatever it's called and got credit from this one dragon for that quest. But....................the head dragon won't recognize or talk to me now and I have an open quest to bring back this sword so my dragon can become a Wyrm and he can't get promoted to Master without being a Wyrm.

I've been thinking and I probably should have killed all the Dragon Slayers before getting the egg. Now I'm thinking about whether I should go back to just before getting the egg and killing all the dragon slayers to see if I get my Dragon promoted and I wonder if it's worth it.

Did you get the Sword of Whistlebone when you killed him? I have it, but the dragon leader still wants me to kill all the dragon hunters. I have a feeling my alliance quest is broken.

Later--back on the alliance quest. I had used a previous save after I got the quest, so had to get it again. Looking for egg.

Oldman, If you got the egg, the Dragon leader is now in Ravenshore. So if you go back to the merchant house of alvar, he'll promote your dragons.

Pat... Hi
Yeah, there's another "lowest" lever that you can only get at the very end. It has no letter at all, that's how you'll recognise it.

Ah Ha! Well I wasted a lot of time then. I went back to a load game before the egg and killed all the dragon slayers and got promoted then went and got the egg. So all's well that end's well I guess. This other dragon still tells me that all the Dragon Slayers are not dead but I can't find any living so guess I'll just give up on that quest. At least my dragon is now a Wyrm and has Grand Master Dragon skills.

Thanks Slayer, I finally got through that quest and found the last lever.

I was also confused with the above quest, but I did get my dragon promoted to wyrn, but I am still told I didn't kill all the dragon hunters. I can't find anymore but I did get the sword and not the egg yet.

I'm back! What's the deal with the Barbarian Fort. I'm going for the egg. It's there right? I can't find any green pressure plates on any of the walls to open up another area. How long do I have to keep Dyson Leland?

Oh, I forgot............Smiley, I don't have a chest in that area in the Nec Guild. Something has to open up I guess.

I got the dragon egg and am back in Garrotte Gorge trying to get in the Naga Vault. There are hordes of Nagas inside the entrance that I can't get by. I've tried everything but we either die or are poisoned and I have to find potions to cure the poisoning.

Pat - the egg is indeed in the Barbarian Fortress. You have to go down the stairs & go south. The most southern room has a button on the southeast wall that will open another door on the south wall. That southern-most room has a chest with the dragon egg. You don't need Dyson any more after you form an alliance with either the necromancers or the Temple of the Sun.

Barb, I don't have stairs that go down. i've been up the stairs in the corners and up the stairs along the paramiter of the yard with the chests. There are steps in the corners of the main area that go up and I fought off orc there, but can't find stairs going down. Is it hidden real good?

Who should I go after now to replace Dyson? I hope somone I don't have to waste time builing them up again.

Pat, go inside the SE tower and up the nearby stairs. There is a lever to pull. Go back down the stairs and then go N down the hall. You will now be able to go down a set of stairs and then proceed S to the egg.

Geez, I don't know why I couldn't see that switch before. GOT THAT EGG. Now who to allign with. Any advice? I'll sure be glad to get rid of Dyson Leland. But who to pick up?

Try both. Do the Dragon hunters first. That may help you make up your mind. I gave it to the Dragons. Still have to kill the dragon hunters.

I went by the Adventurer's Inn and Cauri looked like a good choice for now. I could use her powers in the Naga Vault. Nearly finished that.

Didn't you already used Cauri when you freed her by the druid circle? I still have her, she is all powerful. I just picked up a necromancer/lich Vitranus or something like that. I'm hoping to pick up another dragon.

Nope. Still had the troll, who was pretty useless. I hadn't checked her stats before. I finished the Naga Vault and killed all the dragon hunters outside. Hope I don't have to kill their pets. Will try now to get Great Wyrm for my dragon. Hope to pick up a second dragon when I'm strong enough.

I always go with the dragons. All you have to do is get the egg. Killing all the dragon hunters is a promotion quest, & doesn't make any difference to the alliance. I also usually ally with the Necromancers' Guild and the minotaurs, of course.

Pat, if you want a cleric (which I think is necessary), Dyson is a good choice. Does Cauri have body & spirit magic? I kept Frederick Talimere the whole game.

Barb

Aren't you hampered with so many dragons, since they have fire spell as a weapon? Mine was pretty useless in the Naga Vault because the Nagas were immune. Will I meet other enemies that are immune?

Did you watch the video you get when you give the Dragon Hunters the egg? That would send you to the dragons.

I don't know of any other monsters that are immune to fire. Even the fire monsters in the prison of the water lord go down pretty easily. With 3 dragons, I also had a necromancer and a cleric, so I had everything I needed. I've never allied with the dragon hunters, maybe next time I'll try it.

Good to know. I'll be getting at least one more dragon then. I tried giving the egg to the hunters to see what would happen. That video was startling--horrible dragon hunters!. I reloaded and went to the dragons.

Now you've got my interest up, Pokey! I'm going to try it the next time. I always go with the dragons because I figured it was better to be friends with dragons than enemies!

Barb