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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: AmberSumiko] #503398
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Yes you do get a free game on Monday.


They will inform you when they are done uploading the English version.

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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: MaG] #503400
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Guess I read it too quickly :/ Sorry to confuse!

Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #503421
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I am a customer of years with Adventure shop so they know I am a steady customer. However when I tried to download the game I had waited so long for in anticipation I had a shock. First of all I saw the price said $19.99 at one link I clicked on from Gameboomer to adventureshop. I tried to purchase it and got a notice my credit card wasn't valid. YIKES I know that isn't true, its the same one I always purchase my games on.

So I tried again from another link at Gameboomers and this time I got a price of 2900 euros. I tried to order it anyway but there was no place for my cursor to log in.

So I switched from my firefox browser and another computer and clicked on Sherlock vs jack the ripper at Adventureshop. This time I had a real shock the price was 39.00 Euros! Now I really backed out fast because 3 different prices for the same game. What price is it suppose to be?

Now I am counting my blessings because even though on the US adventureshop link I put my credit card info in twice, it didn't go through. I am so grateful after reading if it had it would have been in french. I am sorry this happened to the others, but grateful they warned us.

One more thing, I have never had any problems with Adventureshop, so when they say they will get this straightened out I know they will. Until then I wait like everyone else for the English version. Is adventureshop the only one that has the English full version? I have downloaded before at frogware so I just wondered if it will also be downloadable there.

Now I want to say, I am playing the demo and I am so impressed with it. I have new computer with 4 Gig of ram and Nivida 9800 graphic card and oh my gosh the graphics are beautiful. I love the way the demo really gives you a good feel for the game. I believe this is frogwares best sherlock from what I have viewed thus far. I love talking to the various people at random. When the woman gets stabbed in the beginning of the game, I actually said aloud "Oh my gosh!|" It wasn't bloody, but I envisioned it.

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Looking forward to help with the demo. Going to the hint forum now to see if I can get help on the demo, since I know this isn't the place to ask for hint help. wave

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One more thing the reason the graphics look beyond beautiful is because I am playing with resolution of 1680x1050 on a wide screen monitor. I can literally see the swish of the skirts of the women as they walk by.

Thanks Frogware for showing me the power in my new computer and top of the line Nivida 9800 graphic card. All I can say is WOW! Frogware does it again. Everyone who loves adventure game and I am NOT talking hidden object here, I hope they will download the demo. I know they will be impressed as I am. I love how easy it is to go to 1st person view and 3rd person view with the scroll of a mouse or middle key or alt key. No more getting motion sickness for me. I Love how even in the demo when you click on the space bar it shows you every item that can be clicked on and examined. I think this will be my favorite frogware game and Sherlock yet. bravo

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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: Sherryah] #503426
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Sherryah, see Beckys post in this thread (the second post) plus here and it states that The Adventure Shop has the exclusive. It is the only place it is available to download now.

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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #503431
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Which is the correct price ? Note that yesterday early morning in Europe I saw 3 different prices. I also pre ordered from Dave and saw he is charging me $19.99 yet Adventureshop links from Gameboomers when I clicked on adventureshop links I got 3 different prices. Please someone explain how this can happen and what adventureshop is really going to charge for European Customers. Thank you in advance. I can't wait for the hard copy so I am going to buy the download also.

Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #503432
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What is the download price in US money? I found a conversion site that says 39.99 euro equals 54.00 US. Is that correct?
I thought the game is 19.99 US...Thanks

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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: Lynnypoo2] #503503
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there are two prices, that are the same than the retail prices.
prices are displayed automatically following your IP and your location:

39.99 euros for Europe
19.99 USD for US

hope that helps

Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: thehood] #503506
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To those that downloaded the French version of Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper - please check your e-mail for the English version.

Have a wonderful time gaming and enjoy this latest Holmes' adventure.

Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: thehood] #503527
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Originally Posted By: thehood
there are two prices, that are the same than the retail prices.
prices are displayed automatically following your IP and your location:

39.99 euros for Europe
19.99 USD for US

hope that helps


That's right, the site reads your IP address and gives you the price in your currency, I had displayed £ 29.99.
Why re games always so much more expensive in Europe compared to USA? hardwall


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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: Carla] #503549
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first there is VAT, then there is currency rate, third there is the price fixed by the local publisher. what is perfectly true for games, is true for everything else, cars, plane travels, tomatoes, and what about real estate, but a square foot has the same dimension anywhere on this planet ... what makes it strange is actually availability, and for games, we can say that technology is far ahead market rules...

Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: thehood] #503596
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Sorry but this makes no sense to me at all. We are talking about a download of a game and Adventureshop has never raised prices this drastically before just because of a European ISP address. I thought surely this must be a mistake, thats why I asked the difference in prices on Gameboomers links to adventureshop.

I am an American, temporairly living in Europe and was going to put it on my USA Credit card. I now know I will not be paying that price penalty for the download, instead I will wait for it to arrive from Interact with a reasonable price, with a box even, for $19.99.

Not even a vat tax of 14 % which on a $20.00 game purchase add about $6.00 can explain why adventureshop is raising the prices on a downloaded game to 39.99 Euros,or 29.99 Euros, depending on which computer link and computer I use, coming from the same location! OUCH! Sorry, but in my eyes this is called greed and Adventureshop after being a loyal customer of yours for years this really grieves me and alot of your European customers. cry mad

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URGENT, My husband just pointed out the game should be less expensive in Europe than in America, because of the value of the Currency Euros to dollars. So now please can someone explain why Europeans are being charged so much higher of a price? Please Adventureshop let us Gameboomers know the answer. Only you can change the price for European Customers to a more fair price.

Last edited by Sherryah; 05/23/09 11:49 AM. Reason: more questions
Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: Sherryah] #503598
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Sherryah, did you not read the post by the thehood? It has nothing to do with The Adventureshop. They do not set the price, the local publisher does. If you owned a store would you buy things to stick in them at 30 dollars and sell them for 10.00 just because you think you paid too much and folks won't like it? C'mon, give them a break, it isn't there fault. Go write the local publisher and complain to them if you so wish but leave the poor guy in the middle out of it.


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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #503603
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Ana, who is the local publisher? I don't understand its a link on Gameboomers that leads to Adventureshop where I order the game from. Ana, if the shoe was on the other foot you would be yelling ouch also.

EDIT...........
I am writing Adventureshop now and asking the above question. Thanks for listening to me vent my frustration.

EDIT...............
Someone just called and asked me on Adventureshop does this mean that Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper, the English version for download now is correct? Thanks in advance whoever answers this.

Last edited by Sherryah; 05/23/09 12:08 PM. Reason: is English version now correct?
Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #503615
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Adventureshop follows the rules as everybody else...
VAT is 20% in France, 16% in Germany, prices of games is still the same. You can give a look by yourself in any shop in europe, or more simply look at amazon.fr or amazon.de, you will see the game at 39.99 euros. And again prices vary from countries to countries, whatever the product is, look at amazon again .com .co.uk, for books, CDs, DVDs,...We don't like it either, it doesn't make you happy. But I will tell you also that selling Sherlock Holmes versus Jack the Ripper the same price than any casual game is really cheap if you compare the price of the production not to mention the quality of the game, and in my view it's not a fair price for such a game, but Frogwares adapts to the market rules, as well we sell games in Thailand for 10 USD. US customers are lucky to pay games this price, and it's a good thing that Gameboomers propose other solutions to get the game cheaper.
Now Adventure shop is forced to respect the Street Retail Price otherwise they wouldn't have the game. And if they want to break prices as casual sites do, they will get games 1-2 years after their first release.
If you want a good price comparison, in the US only, look at some music or rhythm games on the Iphone, 0.79 USD, and the cost on DS 39.99 USD and the applications are very similar, of course it's not your problem if you don't care about this games, but it's just an illustration of what market rules can be.

I see you think prices of the game should be based on USD prices. USD is not the currency that is used for our exchanges, we are europeans, we use Euros, US is not the main market for us, certainly not at a price point of 19.99 USD so less than 15 euros, or the price of the game after 2 years of sales...Add to this the lack of seriousness and payments of US game publishers and you will soon understand why so many games are even not released in the US...

I'm sorry that the explanation of the price issue takes such a strange orientation, but Gameboomers is a site of passionated people and I believe we can share this here.

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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: thehood] #503628
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Thank you very much for the explanation.

I hope that the gamers can get the overall picture from production until release of a game. The variables affect a lot - quality, success, profit and other things.
But most gamers can only understand one part of it - their part; enjoyment and their pockets.

It would be mightily sad if a great company loses money on a quality game. There can be a lot of backlash on that.


Sherryah - I posted at top of this page - yes; the English version is out.

Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: Sherryah] #503632
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Hi Sherryah, I'm a resident of the UK which means that nearly everything I buy costs comparatively more than it does in many other parts of the world & that also applies to a few other European countries - it seems like you are currently living in one of those! smile

Games are no exception. I can order 'physical' copies of NA published games from NA at NA prices plus shipping which is often cheaper than the UK version. But the packaging is often very different - NA versions often come in a box with paper sleeves whereas the UK version comes in a DVD style box. Also the games usually have to have a different publisher to get it released in both NA & Europe & often there's a change in title to distinguish between what country the game was released in.

Anyway, onto downloads - the same principle applies! I have bought a game from the Adventure Shop, there are at least two sites which sell the games at different prices & you will be directed to the one relevant to your location in the world. This has nothing to do with exchange rates - it merely reflects the cost of games in relation to where you are living! It also has nothing to do with developers and/or publishers.

I have been on holiday to a couple of European countries where the cost of living is far lower than it is in the UK & have been able to go out & 'feast' every night for a week for the same price as eating out in the UK for one night. I would be horrified if I was expected to pay the equivalent UK price each night just because I or my partner payed with a UK card! My point here, Sherryah, is that if you are living in Europe you have to pay European prices! smile


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Has anyone downloaded the Game Demo successfully? I had problems when installing it, it said - media you are installing from is corrupted.

If other people didn't have this problem I'll try to download it in a different computer.


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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: mcc] #503866
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Bravo Damon thumbsup I received an email yesterday (Saturday) giving me the links to the 2 files which have to be downloaded. This is the English version in place of the French version which many of us downloaded.

I followed instructions and the game is installed and working perfectly.

I understand Damon and others had been working all through the night to sort this matter out so thank you very much Damon and colleagues thumbsup wave

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Thanks, bermag. It is nice of Adventure Shop to try and get us the game as soon as possible. It is just bad that technical problems occured.


mcc -There are several gamers that played and finished the demo. There are questions at Hints forum. luck on another computer.

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Thank you MaG!

I'll try again then.

I downloaded it again and it is now working.

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Re: Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper: Adventure Shop Release plus English Playable Demo [Re: MaG] #503919
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Thank you MaG thumbsup

Just in case anyone may be confused as to how to download then install this game, I hope the following will help bearing in mind that I did not use a downloader for this:

This was my first download from Adventure Shop and so I created a folder thus entitled. Inside this folder I created another folder entitled S Holmes -v- J Ripper. Inside the S Holmes -v- J Ripper folder I created 2 more folders, Download 1 and Download 2. Click on the link in the email to Download 1 then save the download to the Download 1 folder. This is a fairly short download and is the installation software. Then click on Download 2 and save it to the Download 2 folder.

Once both are downloaded then open the Download 1 folder then RUN it. Do not be alarmed when you see an "insert disc" command because next to it is the 'browse' option which should be used. Click on this then 'browse' until you enter the Download 2 folder which should then be shown in the pane. Click 'OK' and the game will install. Then follow any further instruction onscreen.

Hope this will help someone wave

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Thanks bermag.

Just 1-2 change.

Make one folder. Label it with the name of the game.
Download the 2-4 links sent by the Store to that folder.
When download of all the files-links are completed, open the first setup file and it will automatically install all the rest.

No need for a folder for each file - they can be one happy family in one folder. smile

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Great idea MaG - wish I'd thought of that lol thumbsup

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I once ordered one of the Myst games from a amazon.com (the US site). I ended up paying twice as much as the game normally cost here in Denmark because of VATS (which is 25% in Denmark), customs and transport costs. And you also pay customs and VATS for the transport costs.

If you have anything shipped from the US (or outside the US), you need to pay both customs and transport costs. If the adventureshop server is in the US, it would make sense that the price would be about 40 Euros (about 240 Danish crowns) while the US price would be about 20 US dollars. (about 120 Danish crowns). The price in Euro is about wice as much as the price in Dollars, because of VATS (sales tax), customs and transport costs. (or maybe server maintenance in this regard). I also think the wage payment is higher in Europe that it isn in the US (but let's not get too far into that).

I agree, though, the the price should be similar all over the world. However, in the US different states have different sax added to the sale after the sale, while in Europe the sales tax in included in the price of the game. So for a 40 Euro game, 25% of the price for the game, i.e. 10 Euros, will be the sales tax, at least in Denmark.

The recently released adventure pack for NWN2, Mysteries of Westgate sold for 10 US dollars or for 10 Euros= about 70-75 Danish crowns. Again, 10% percent of that price is for the 25% VATS (sales tax). The base price is then about 8 Euros (about 55 Danish crowns) and the US price with sales tax is maybe about 11 Dollars or so=55-60 Danish crowns.

I know this can get a bit confusing, and I do agree that it would be better if all games cost the same amount of money, especially when they are offered as games than be downloaded digitally.



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