CE = collectors edition.

Hi Mad

I just meant if you had the Collector's Edition of the game? As I remember it, pre-ordering the Collector's Edition did give you these three (free promo) items? [I may, of course, remember wrongly?]

Did your game come with a cloth map?

As I see it, Bioware (or more possibly EA) have brought this on themselves buy tying different items to different pre-orders?

And by tying the Warden's Keep to any digital distribution (or just the Digital Deluxe Edition of the game? ) they have a great deal of confusion.

It also seems to me that that Bioware (and EA) did not anticipate the popularity of this game (in my local gamestop is is # 4 item sold); they were not expecting, probably, their servers to be hit as hard, as they did.

Oh, well, maybe by the time Mass Effect rolls around around January 26th, the social site will function somewhat OK?

I also looked at the box, very confusing it is, I think. No where is the words 'rpg' to be seen, the text of the back describes it as some kind of action game? where you (as the hero?) unite the lands, fight the good fight against the evil force that has invanded the land etc.

If I did not know what this game was about, I would assume that I was about to play a game in which I would be the hero (no mention of party based either) that solely unites the land without any help...

And the text for system requirements are very very small, even for normal eyes...

On a more aesthetic level, I don't like the dragon that's on the front of the box. It just looks like a generic game, not the epic, dark, partybased fantasy game that it is...

Ok, I'll end my rant now...

PS:
In a thread over at the Bioware forums, it was suggested that you could move by clicking both the LMB and RMB mouse button at the same time...

Edit:

There seems to be a problem with the patch having a conflict with the MS C++ 2005 redist. package. If you think you have this problem, please head here to read ToddMcFF2002's post: (link to solution in post)

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1060981887#post1060981887

Hmmmmm......I wonder what happened to mine???

Got mine in a day from Interact and fired it up last night. I played for about a half hour and have to say I'm not thrilled with the controls. I like to change camera angle with the mouse and use the WASD keys for movement. I didn't see a way to change this in the in-game options. I guess I'll get used to it...

Hi all


First, to let you know by way of RPGWatch that Fernado Melo, a Bioware dev has posted a lengthy letter to the community explaining about the issues - and apologizing for the problems people are having both with the dlc and the (new) social site. Apparantly, they took Spore's numbers and doubled it! - and for the DLC there was an issue with (some) Windows Service, I think

Anyway, here's a snip from the post:

Fernado Melo wrote:



Here's Fernando's reflective thoughts on the whole thing:



This is customer service like we used to get in the olden days!
A company acknowledging a problem, communicating about it, and fixing it.
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Those of you that have problems with the controls for movement might want to check out this thread; please have a look at mithent's post:

http://daforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=704644&forum=135&highlight=

There are apparently three ways to move in DA: Origins - or rather make your characters move


1) using the wsad keys
2) leftclick the character(s), then use the RMB to tell them where to go
3) drive the characters MMO-style by holding the RMB and LMB down at the same time and use the mouse to move the character(s) forward.

/Karsten

Thanks Karsten, it's is great that they are listening and responding and trying to make it right.

There is a way to do just that. You hold the right mouse down to rotate your camera angle and move with your keyboard. Took me a while to learn that but now I'm very happy with the controls.

I also like the way that you can adjust the camera view with the mouse wheel. I use behind the back view for exploring and overhead view for combat and it works really well for me.

I just got mine yesterday and really like the game. It is like an improved BG or NWN game.

I played through several character stories until I got to the Grey Warden and what I like about it is that every character starts off with their own separate stories and then all end up at the Grey Warden place.

I have the retail version and, so far have had no tech problems. Will not patch the game until I run into a problem or a patch comes out that adds some goodies or something.

I don't really understand the downloadable content stuff but when I clicked on it it wanted me to purchase some extra things so I don't know if that is an add on or what but I'm not ready to pay some more money for a download.

If you download the game rather than buying the disc version and the additional stuff was included in the downloaded version in order to encourage downloads I could see how that would be a good way to sell downloads but maybe I don't even know what I'm talking about.

Anyway I'm really enjoying the game as it is and hope it stays trouble free until the end.

I just meant if you had the Collector's Edition of the game? As I remember it, pre-ordering the Collector's Edition did give you these three (free promo) items? [I may, of course, remember wrongly?]

No, I don't have the "CE".
[Thank you for the translation, gremlin ]
But I did pre-order my version from Play.Com in the UK, if that makes any difference.

Did your game come with a cloth map?

No. It just came with the manual - and an advert for Mass Effect 2 bearing a code number for downloading Blood Armour.
But I now see that I can use this code to get the armour for Dragon Age
Codes !! Codes !! Codes !!
[I've never experienced having to do so much on-line stuff to get a disk version of a game set up !!]

As I see it, Bioware (or more possibly EA) have brought this on themselves buy tying different items to different pre-orders?
And by tying the Warden's Keep to any digital distribution (or just the Digital Deluxe Edition of the game? ) they have a great deal of confusion.

Well maybe I have the Digital Deluxe Edition then (although it doesn't say that anywhere on the packaging) because the first time I installed the game I was given the Warden's Keep.

It also seems to me that that Bioware (and EA) did not anticipate the popularity of this game (in my local gamestop is is # 4 item sold); they were not expecting, probably, their servers to be hit as hard, as they did.
Oh, well, maybe by the time Mass Effect rolls around around January 26th, the social site will function somewhat OK?

Whether good sales were anticipated or not, in my opinion a comprehensible and easy to use system for all this downloading should have been in place and tested before the game was ever made available

Edit:

There seems to be a problem with the patch having a conflict with the MS C++ 2005 redist. package. If you think you have this problem, please head here to read ToddMcFF2002's post: (link to solution in post)

Thanks again I'll go take a peek.
But I've decided to uninstall the game and wait until this ridiculous downloading fiasco has been resolved.

I have three other RPGs and several Adventures not even started yet so I won't be without my BAAGS "fix" whilst I wait

I'm with Draclvr on this. I realised from the start that you have to dpress the RMB, but I just hate that! It's such an unecessary strain on one's arm, and I've now switched my RMB and my LMB so that at least I can use my index finger for a bit less strain on the hand and arm. Though it's still a pain, and I really don't understand why it couldn't just have been automatic mouselook like with all other WASD games. Or at least they could have let it toggle.

Otherwise, I'm finding it to be a very cool game so far. I'd set "persistent blood" off right at the start, so there's not even that to bother me. The cutscenes are awesome, btw!

Hi Mad

I think you might have the UK Collector's Edition.
This version of the game comes in a regular plastic box, with no cloth map and the three items you've been given. [Did your game come in a tinbox...]

Or maybe first time, you installed the game, the servers mistook it for a Collector's Edition?

It seems you do have physical copy of the game?
[I think you need to buy the game via Steam or Impulse? to get the DDE?)

Glad you have other gamers to play, though

edit:

As for the DLC problems there's over at gamebanshee that mentions this and a solution:


http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/95705-dragon-age-origins-forum-activity.html

Hi again

I think you might have the UK Collector's Edition.
This version of the game comes in a regular plastic box, with no cloth map and the three items you've been given. [Did your game come in a tinbox...]

My version came in a plastic DVD case - as seems to be the norm these days when purchasing a game in the UK.

Or maybe first time, you installed the game, the servers mistook it for a Collector's Edition?

I don't actually understamd how that could happen - but then I don't understand much about techie stuff

It seems you do have physical copy of the game?
[I think you need to buy the game via Steam or Impulse? to get the DDE?)
Glad you have other gamers to play, though

I don't know what "DDE" is but I'm actually not into downloading whole games. Nor do I participate in "on-line" play.
I like to have a hard copy sitting on my shelf so I can re-play it 20 years from now, if I so desire.
And I do a LOT of that. I have many really old games that I still like to re-play ....
So yes, I have a disk version

Which brings into the question all this "downloading of special content".
I don't expect THAT will be available years from now.
For me, it should all be on the disk to begin with

edit:
As for the DLC problems there's over at gamebanshee that mentions this and a solution:
http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/95705-dragon-age-origins-forum-activity.html

Thanks. I'll go and look

And thanks also, once again, for all your helpful replies !!

Cheers.

Mad

When prompted to download the DLC is there an option to save this somewhere (so you can reuse it at other times) or does it automatically install itself?

Haven't installed my copy yet as I am still playing Risen.

I think I have seen a way to do this over at the Bioware forums or on the Bioware Social Network (BSN).

The good news is that the DLC is tied to your account, not your computer. (several devs. from Bioware have confirmed this).

This means that if you want to play DA: Origins again 2 or 3 years from now you can; the server? should remember your DLC (it is possible you'll need to log in again to get it back, though)

If you have your promo codes (cards for shale, blood armour, and the pre-order stuff) you can just log into the BSN to redeem them.

For the Warden's Keep (WK) DLC, there's a NPC in your camp, you'll need to talk to to get this DLC. Then after you talk to him - and accept the quest - if will get a line like Premium Content. When you click the Premium Content line, you get taken to the chekout counter, where you will need to buy Bioware Points. Luckily, you can buy points for exactly 7 US dollars=the amount you'll need to buy Warden's Keep.

Rumour has it that WK is about 1-2 hours long, depending on how muc you do in it.

Thanks Karsten! You've been a wealth of info on this game.

Yes !! A special thanks !!

Karsten-

I understand the end of #3m but could you explain the first part about MMO ??? and RMB ????, I am totally lost with that.

Thanks

maggie

Thank you, Karsten.

Maggie, RMB = Right Mouse Button

MMO = Massively Multiplayer Online (like World of Warcraft)

L4L

Thanks so much, so many initals and I never get them right. But I do not play WOW, so what do I do for a single game?????

maggie

Maggie, you just don't log on to the server. You just play as a single player.

I never play online. You just play the game normally. Just click "play" and start by choosing your character.

Anyway, I've played a few of the "origins" by now, and I like the mage story best so far.

The Dalish Elf story was perhaps the most boring, but I got a nice Dalish Elf warrior that I'm continuing the story with.

I'm in that first town after Ostagar now.. - Lothering. Got my dog and my rogue, and had to choose..

What origins did the rest of you guys choose?

I picked a Dalish Elf too. Haven't had much time to play and am still getting used to the controls.

After playing through the Human, both elves, Dwarf commoner and Magi origins I finally chose to continue with the Dalish Elf. I chose a Rogue for my character. I have progressed past Lothering and now have in my party Allstair Morrigan and Elliana which is a Warrior Templer, Witch and Rogue/Bard.

My main character uses dual weapons while my female Rogue uses a bow and Morrigan has a lot of spells she can use.

Probably better parties around but I'm happy with my crew.

I also finally figured how to get a couple of freebies that came with the game. I downloaded the Blood Armor and a special mission. I don't like the fact that I ran into an NPC and in order to complete his mission I had to go on line and purchase the quest. When I buy a game I don't expect some of the quests to cost extra money by downloading them.

"When I buy a game I don't expect some of the quests to cost extra money by downloading them"

Me neither !!!!

Is it possible to not finish such a quest but just continue on and still finish the game ??

After shelling out $50 for this game, I guarantee I won't be paying extra for any quests.

Gotta love those Witcher developers who fixed stuff and gave us extras for no extra cost at all!

Thank you all for the kind words

First, let me assure that you can finish the game without ever visiting Warden's Keep. I've now confirmed that this quest is actually max. 2 hours long. (some say 45-90 min. long actually)
It sounds like you get a keep while you've done. You don't. The merchants you get + the storage chests ate out in the snow in front of the Keep.
[Warden's Keep is not necessary to finish the game].

Look please instead at the Bioware forums, both in the regular and in the Social Site forums. There are ways to add storage chests to your camp or to extend your inventory. As always, please do a bakup of your saved games before actually doing anything.

EDIT:

If you turn down the guy at camp (who is installed on your computer no matter what you do), thus refusing to do his quest, rumour has it that you will be seeing him again in camp where he just stands and stands. Personally, I don't like this way of selling stuff - it feels to much like peddling to me.

/Edit

As Looney4Labs explained the RMB=the right mouse button. In DA: Origins you can hold the right mouse button down to tell your guy where to move, drag a box around the party, then hold the right mouse button down to tell where to go.

You can, also, use press down both the left mouse and the right mouse button at the same time, then sort of push or drive the mouse forward to get your character(s) to move.

I think you'll need to leftclick on the little button that's to the right under each character?
Or maybe just click on the character's portrait?

There should be a way to actually invert the mouse use in this game so you use the left mouse button to tell your characters where to go.

MMMO=Massively Multiplayer Online game, as Looney explained, like World of Warcraft or Eve Online or Funcom's The Secret World or Myst Online.
(I think this game was called that?) It just means many people play the same game, talk to each other, decide to fight together, split the loot etc.

For a single player game, you don't log into Bioware's social site or their servers - unless you need to redeem a code for (free) DLC, register your game or download DLC.

If you just want to enjoy the game as is, just put the game disc in your DVD-drive, and away you go - to Ferelden - In Peace Vigilance - In War Victory - In Death Sacrifice -

Sorry, couldn't help myself...

(such it is when you don't have the game)