Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Kaki's Sister]
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" I just finished playing Lost in Time again. There were any number of creative puzzles in that game. Remember having to build an electromagnet from spare parts? That was a puzzle." Certainly do !! So many absolutely "brain-withering" puzzle memories can be dredged up from past games when we make the effort !! 
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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chrissie,
I thought many of the puzzles in GK3 were very hard. Broken Sword 1 is still on my recommendation list every year. It is frustrating when you get stuck on a puzzle but it sure does feel good when you work the solution out on your own.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Well, I've been thinking about this and I can't get it down to just three. There are so many good puzzles that I liked. So I'm indulging myself with a much long list, in categories. Multi-stepped/exploration puzzles:The Daedalus Club "funhouse" in Gray Matter The Marble Puzzle in Riven The 5 book riddles in Yoomurjak's Ring The 7 chalices in 80 Days Puzzle sequences that also helped define the charactersGetting the toilet bowl brush in Broken Sword 1 The midnight picnic prep and conversation in Everlight Getting the pearl factory working in The Whispered World Puzzles that tied in story elementsHiring a lawyer (the cat track sequence) in Grim Fandango The steering wheel flashback in Dark Fall: Lost Souls The telescope puzzle in Secrets of Da Vinci: The Forbidden Manuscript The screening room sequence in Agatha Christie: And Then There Were None Puzzles I didn't want to solve because watching the characters fail was so much funNancy's dance audition in Nancy Drew: Phantom of Venice Assil keeping the customers happy in Ankh 2: Heart of Osiris The Midtown Cowboys improv in Sam & Max Episode 102: Situation Comedy
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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 becky - too funny ! i honestly couldn't think of three right off the bat , and you have yours categorized ! i liked the stealth sequence in da vinci , and most of the puzzles in echo would be right up there for me. i'm a mutant along with bubba jake - sliders are some of my favorite puzzles , and i liked the laser puzzle in still life !  but solving the oscar puzzle was the one that hooked me on the games for as long as i can play 'em !
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Great Topic
There were very many but these seem to stand out for me.. 1) getting the coordinates and firing the canon in the Neverhood
2) The mechanical valve - boiler room puzzle in Tomb of Zojir
3) Raising the ship at the dock in Myst
It is a tough question - even while I was typing this up, I was thinking of some other very memorable ones. But these I remember well.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Sureshot is that the Rocket puzzle in Myst where you had to match the notes with the piano? That was a real tuff one for me!
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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I am a bit in jenny100s camp about visual payoffs. Getting the tram started in the desert scene in Outcry is not only intricate and multilayered, it is rewarded by a wonderful cutscene. A number of puzzles in the Myst games are similarly rewarded. On a different tack, for diabolic simplicity the fingers puzzle in Monkey Islan 2 is a winner.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Puzzles in the first three Myst games stand out in my mind because I was able to figure out most of them. And because it was my introduction to this type of puzzle solving.
The rocket ship sound puzzle in the first Myst made me really listen. And the resonance rings for Exile because I actually reasoned out the solution. Something I don't usually possess.
There have been a few others since then but the first three Mysts are my favorites.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Homer, I am really impressed. I thought Myst was one of the hardest games I have ever played and I never would of finished that game without a walkthrough.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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The Rhem puzzles - just navagating at times was puzzlement. I do enjoy puzzle driven games but even the Rhem walkthroughs were difficult at times. The darkside: Am playing God of War 3 and am warming up to the labrynth. This hould be a challenge.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Ahhh...yes, a walkthrough. One for each game was near by if needed. And sometimes they were needed.
There were some puzzles in the first three I did figure out myself. And then there were others I didn't have a clue. So I used a walkthrough to point me in the right direction. Sometimes this worked and sometimes I had to read the walkthrough for the puzzle to solve it.
Take, for example, getting all the papers--I think they were--in the first Myst. One was in the box by the dock. And had it not been for a walkthrough to this puzzle I'd have never found it.
When you talk about hard puzzles, the first Rhem jumps into my mind. Whoa, they indeed were to me.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Hi Kaki's Sister - That's the one - took me a while - but I remember feeling pretty good about solving it.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Kaki's Sister - oops no not that one -sorry - that puzzle was good too. I am talking about the puzzle early on in the game where the ship is sunk at the dock - you have to raise it - there's a linking book on it in the captain's cabin I believe.
The ahha!! came when I heard that distinctive sound that a said "something just happened" - thenn you see the ship afloat and can now go on it.
MYST kinda of stays with you especially if you solve its puzzles without a WT.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Mad]
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I didn't have too much trouble navigating above ground, it was going underground that gave me fits. I don't remember which Myst it was, but you had to navigate a sub through an underground labyrinth. I don't know how many times I tried before checking a WT for a hint.
Again, I can't remember which Myst, but going through the jungle to free electric fish for power lower down. Talk about walking in circles.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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I remember that part Homer. Everything under water looked alike and I kept making the same wrong turn! I was very happy when I finally got it!
Gerry
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Homer, there is a underwater trip back from the Island you get to from the rocket ship. When you are finished with all the other puzzles, you have to open the big door back by the dock, then it takes you thru another tunnel of tricks to the underwater ship. That's how you get the Letter back.
Riven also has a great underwater trek, finding secrets of the language, and getting on the huge metal 'Cone' to be lifted up the stone houses on top.
O. K., now that you have succeeded in reminding me how wonderful Myst and Riven are, I have no choice but to drag them out AGAIN!! for a 5th and 6th time.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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I like sliders too!  (and I also like mazes)
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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I, too, like sliders but have to admit defeat sometimes with them 
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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Not all of the slider puzzles in the Myst games caused me problems. I understood what they were meant to do. It was the ones that didn't look like they did anything until you realized something did happen, just not where you could see.
Was it Riven where you had to figure out the weight of the orange ball so the track could be set to keep from breaking the rolling ball? I confess, WT helped me through this one.
If something gets your goat, it just proves you have a goat to get.
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