hi, i've been following this thread and was wondering if anyone has completed the wheel and pipe puzzle in ch 5...i can't figure out how to place them no matter what i do, and the hint is no help

LadyCav, if my memory is good i started by left one 1 time then go up, then right and finish by left side.

sorry i finished the puzzle before reading this but i'm pretty sure what worked for me was at the very satrt go down, left, up and continue around the edges...i think thats how i did it..hope this helps

shilohpendragon, i am stuck here too, dont understand what must doin...

i thought at first that the question marks on the hint cooresponded with the size of the wheels but that didn't seem to work either

Thank you very much mnv83 and shilopendragon. I will give that a try. I do appreciate your kind and quick responses!

Shilopendgragon, I'll try to get to that pipe and vavle puzzle if I can ever get the guy in the business suit to give me that last valve.
P.S. ... love your username!

thank you

i think so too, but it's doesn't working...

i don't know what just happened but when i was trying to set all the wheels back on the ground one of them vanished...

i got it !!! i got it !!!

awwww lol thats mean....ya now both of my big wheels have disapeared

i think it's just an ingame bug, exit the puzzle and come back, u ll have all 5 wheels

shilo.... try backing out of the puzzle and then come into it again. If need be, close the game out completely, wait a moment, and restart the game, and see if that works.

Okay, I'm in the puzzle now. Wow, what the bleep are we trying to accomplish here?!?! I see what you all mean now. Give me a while to play with it.

Edit to add..... forgot to say THANK YOU!!! That solution worked for the guy in the business suit.... many thanks!

yup just a glitch

it's harder than Myst (the game)

Naw, it's just because we're having to "go it alone". With Myst and Riven, we had the walkthrough to peek at!

ETA: and in my case the book that came with it back umpteen years ago.

I'v passed Myst without any soluce

ok, maybe look at it just one time

EDIT: soooo? what about that puzzle? any ideas?

i thought maybe the circles on the pipes meant something cuz they're diff sizes and colors...but no lucky with that either

I swear I don't know what we're supposed to accomplish, mnv83.

The two pipes on the right go to the underground plate to that open hatch down below. Do we keep the supposed water from reaching there? The source of the water, if it is water, seems to come from the bottom left, but along which pipes it is supposed to travel?

The pictorial clue tells me nothing. I even wrote down all those Roman Numerals in screen 1 - the boat dock and screen two - the fountain room, and tried to "number" the valve connections. No Luck.

Any ideas on your end????

i think we're suppose to shut off the water that leads to the fountain...cuz the key is in there but we can't reach it

EDIT: GOT IT!!!! how do i take a pic to show you?

Okay, that makes sense. Good call, Shilo! I'll go try again.

EDIT: Oh wow! Bravo!

Number the valve connections in rows, top row left to right, then next, and such and tell us!

Edit to add:

Top row has 3 connections,
Middle row has 2 connections,
Bottom row has 5 connections.

on PC do print Screen on Mac Apple+Shift+3

ok ignore the top row
-at the 1st connection in the 2nd row put a medium sized one
-and at the 2nd put the smallest one
-row 3 only has 1 valve connection on it..put a big one there
-on the very bottom row on the very right side put the other medium size one (connection 5) and right beside it put the big one (connection 4)

sorry its hard to describe if it doesn't work i'll try reexplaining it

EDIT: i don't know how to do print screen on my PC...i see the abbrev PRT SC but its the second option on my top row of buttons on my keyboard just don't know how to get it lol

yeah, thanks shilohpendragon !!!!!
u r a master

pipes

I got it, I got it!!!

Thank you shilopendgragon! You get the gold star for the day!!!

I got the key and unlocked the door.
(Don't forget the two jigsaw pieces in the fountain).