2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Hi all, Taking Syd's word that real GBers never get tired of lists, here is this years thread. For those who haven't been here before, the aim is to provide a list of adventure game recommendations from the collected wisdom of us all. It is intended to help those of us who haven't played every game ever made decide what to play next. Lasts years results, with links to walkthroughs and reviews, can be found above in the links menu. The key is to list games that you would recommend to others to play in this day and age. Your all time favourite game that can only be played on a Commodore 64 should not therefore be included. There are rules, but there are no prizes 1. You can recommend a maximum of 15 games. You can choose to recommend less. 2. You cannot recommend a series. If you want to recommend all the Tex Murphy games, that will take 5 seperate recommendations, one for each game. 3. Myst and RealMyst will be counted as one game. 4. (This rule has been added as a result of the following posts). In addition to the 15 you may then add 3 non-adventure games. We keep the thread open for three weeks, and I will post intermittent updates and pithy insights. So here are my 15. Riven The Longest Journey GK2: The Beast Within Myst III: Exile Morpheus Byzantine Zork Nemesis Faust Blackstone Chronicles Zork Grand Inquisitor Dracula: The Last Sanctuary The Dark Eye The Neverhood Black Dahlia Isabelle Here are my 3 non-adventures: Outcast Twinsuns Odyssey Thief Have fun flotsam
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/09/02 05:06 PM
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If action games are going to be allowed, then so should RPG's.
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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I'm going to throw my vote in on the side of allowing any type of game to be listed. Adventure gamers aren't the only ones who read and post at GameBoomers so everyone should be able to list their favorite games no matter what genre they are.
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/09/02 05:48 PM
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Hi Folks It's Rosemary and Gordon here jumping to the defence of adventure games again What! the adventure twisty list including action and rpgs? This would cause a divorce in this household because I love rpgs and Gordon wouldn't want to put them in our list! Seriously, it's a good idea but doesn't the action/rpg twisty list belong on the action/rpg forum? Why not have two lists, one on each forum? This is the adventure discussion board and the adventure twisty list is an institution now, what a shame to change it because adventures deserve a list of their own. Our adventure list coming soon ... Rosemary
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Hi all, Trust Syd to make things complicated <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> The list was originally constructed to be for adventure games, as this site is predominantly about adventure games. So we wikll keep it that way. But in deference to the large number of adventure game players that are prepared to come out of the dark and admit they do sometimes stray and play something else, and as I make the rules you will be allowed to list 3 non-adventure games AFTER your 15 adventure recommendations. I stress after so that I can keep the lists straight. And 3 is only a few I know but it needs to be manageable. And no debate will be entered into as to what is and isn't an adventure, so don't even dare to try <img border="0" alt=" " title="" src="graemlins/pacify.gif" /> Seriously though, I trust the amended rules will cater for everyone, whilst maintaining the original purpose of the list. I have ammended the rules above and added my games. flotsam
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/09/02 06:15 PM
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Just so you don't think I'm trying to sneak one past you, would you consider the Quest for Glorys hybrids or RPGs rather than adventures?
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Here's my list. I had a really hard time placing them in any kind of order. #1 and #2 are really tied for first place, and #3 to #10 are tied for second place. 1) Myst 2 : Riven 2) Gabriel Knight 2: The Beast Within 3) Shivers 1 4) Shivers 2: Harvest of Souls 5) Myst 1 6) Lighthouse 7) Schizm 8) Myst 3: Exile 9) Phantasmagoria 1 10)Tex Murphy: Overseer I also enjoyed 11) Gabriel Knight 3: Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned, although I never finished this game being unable to beat the demon at the end. Also 12) Dracula Resurrection, 13) Dracula: The Last Sanctuary Two other great games were 14) Beyond Atlantis and 15) Atlantis I still have Beyond Atlantis 2 sitting on my shelf because I can't get it to play on my curent machine. I'm looking forward to Watchmaker and Syberia, but these don't count yet. Row
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/09/02 08:50 PM
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Here Goes my list in no order. 1) Amber Journey's Beyound 2) GK 1: Sin's Of The Father 3) GK 2: The Beast Within 4) Dracula The Last Sanctuary 5) Blackstone Chronicles 6) Sanitaium 7) Black Dahlia 8) The Forgotten 9) Phantasmagoria 10) Phantasmagoria 2 A Puzzle Of Flesh 11) Tex Murphy: Under A Killing Moon 12) Tex Murphy: The Pandora Directive 13) Tex Murphy: Overseer 14) Faust 15) Realms of the Haunting Here is my non adventure one's I call them non adventure one's as I was made to go to the RPG forum for help. 1.) Clive Barker's Undying 2.) American McGee's Alice 3.) Baulder's Gate Josie
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Flotsam,
ONly 3 non adventure games. You have got to be kidding. How in the world could I only pick 3.
Now what about action adventure games. Last year on the list were gmaes like Outcast and ROTH. So are those not allowed anymore in the top 15 then?
Zanthia
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/09/02 09:34 PM
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Hello again, I know 3 isn't a lot Zanthia but I was simply trying to make room for everyone, whilst at the same time sticking to the original intention of creating an adventure game list. You are right that some hybrid games got on the list last year and I expect they will again. Not everyone has the same idea about what constitutes an adventure game. Everyone will construct their list according to their own definitions. The result will be an eclectic mix of tastes and opinions.
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/09/02 11:41 PM
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Hey, FLOTSAM, what happened to SCHIZM? I seem to recall that it was #7 on your list last year.
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Advpuzlov, I just had to find room for Isabelle. You will notice Ring has gone too, which remains one of my favourites but would I recommend it to others to play over some other games?? Schizm is in the same boat - one of my all time best games but I was looking to balance my list a bit so something had to give. BTW, Ring went to accomodate Black Dahlia so you should be pleased
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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This was a very difficult task, but I finally got my list down to only 15 (in no particular order): 1. The Neverhood 2. Grim Fandango 3. Curse of Monkey Island 4. Escape From Monkey Island 5. The Longest Journey 6. Nancy Drew: Final Scene 7. Nancy Drew: Message In A Haunted Mansion 8. Faust 9. Phantasmagoria 10. Morpheus 11. Sanitarium 12. Tex Murphy: Overseer 13. Last Express 14. Clandestiny 15. Discworld Noir And for my 3 non-adventures: 1. Theme Hospital 2. Midtown Madness 3. Last Call
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Here's my list : 1. Shivers 2. Black Dahlia 3. Blue Ice 4. Celtica 5. ROTS 6. Temujin 7. Gabriel Knight 1 8. Gabriel Knight 2 9. TLJ 10. MOTD 11. Faust 12. Zork Nemesis 13. Callahan's Crosstime Saloon 14. Quest for Glory lV 15. Amerzone and the non-adventures: Ceremony of Innocence, Night Cafe and TLC.
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Is it already that time again!? Here's my list; 1. Faust - seven games of the soul 2. Blackstone Chronicles 3. Riven 4. Gabriel Knight 2 5. Morpheus 6. Zork Nemesis 7. Black Out (danish game) 8. Amber - Journeys beyond 9. Obsidian 10. Myst 11. Timelapse 12. Lighthouse 13. GK3 14. Exile 15. Schizm
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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06/10/02 06:13 AM
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Hi Flotsam, Here is our list in alphabetical order: Black Dahlia Blue Ice Broken Sword 1 Callahan's Crosstime Saloon Curse of Monkey Island Day of the Tentacle Discworld 1 Dracula Resurrection Gabriel Knight 2 The Longest Journey Pandora Directive Return to Zork Riven Shivers 1 Simon the Sorcerer 1 Non-Adventure: Might and Magic VI Baldur's Gate II Wizardry 8 The last three are Rosemary's alone, I had no say in the matter. Cheers Gordon
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Twisty List in NO particular order 1. Neverhood 2. Zork GI 3. Cassandra Galleries 4. Tex Murphy - Pandora Directive 5. Grim Fandango 6. Faust 7. Paris 1313 (if only for the wall climb puzzle) 8. Loom 9. Shivers 10. Nightlong 11. The Longest Journey 12. Sanitarium 13. Arthur's Knights - Tales of Chivalry 14. Dracula - Last Sanctuary 15. Sherlock Homes - Rose Tattoo Other twists: (pathetic but I usually stick to Adventures) 1. The Sims Livin Large 2. King's Quest Mask of Eternity 3. Redguard - only cause I'm playing it now. Love, Jen
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Re: 2002 The return of the Twisted List
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Eek, I'm always nervous at doing these, the fear is that I change my mind a week later and beat myself up. Oh well. Here goes... 1 : Zork Nemesis 2 : Riven 3 : Amber : Journeys Beyond 4 : The X-Files 5 : Titanic : Adventure out of Time 6 : Blackstone Chronicles 7 : Morpheus 8 : Timelapse 9 : Real Myst 10 : Obsidian 11 : Dracula : resurection 12 : Frankenstein 13 : Black Dahlia 14 : Lighthouse 15 : Reah Phew, that wasn't as bad as I thought! My 3 action/'non traditional adventure' games would be : 1 : Jedi Knight : Outcast 2 : Thief : The Metal Age 3 : Half Life : Opposing Force Jonathan
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