Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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Hi all ! Can anyone explain what appears to be a minesweeper puzzle? I say "appears" because it is not playing like Minesweeper - at least not for me. If I expose a "1" I should think the adjacent squares should not "explode" i.e., but many do and I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong. There have been a few more bugs I ran across but I see that others have had the same issues - I do hope the Minesweeper puzzle is not buggy ! Thank you -
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/12/15 12:48 PM
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Ok yep - that is the same as Minesweeper only this one is on steroids! I am about to ask for a saved game - way too frustrating to start over and over and the thing is way too big - it lost its charm for me. Also, unless it's me, cause I did run into a few bugs, you can't save a gave and come back to where you left off.... the puzzle has to be started from the beginning! Deal Breaker. Jenny - I saw your list of the Testimony locations which was very helpful because it confirmed a bug I ran into which involved the testimony by the safe in the beach house. I picked it up and read it...later exited the game but when I returned to the game and was about the cross the rope to the temple, I only had 87% of the testimonies and was missing one.. going over every step, the one I didn't have was that one AND it was not under the safe anymore !! I continued without it - bummer! Thank you all for the help, and if I could get that saved game after the minesweeper puzzle - that would be great !
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/12/15 01:19 PM
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Jenny - I saw your list of the Testimony locations which was very helpful because it confirmed a bug I ran into which involved the testimony by the safe in the beach house. I picked it up and read it...later exited the game but when I returned to the game and was about the cross the rope to the temple, I only had 87% of the testimonies and was missing one.. going over every step, the one I didn't have was that one AND it was not under the safe anymore !! I continued without it - bummer! I had the same bug the first time I played, which is why I replayed and made the list (originally only for my own use, but then I thought other players might be interested in it). I don't remember for sure whether I ever saw the testimony under the safe in the beach house in my first playthrough, but I didn't see that particular testimony among my testimonies in the game. I also had a weird bug where testimonies would reappear after I exited and reloaded the game, such as the one on the pier and the one by the bridge -- pretty much all of the ones that you didn't get automatically when you picked something else up. But unfortunately the one in the beach house never respawned (assuming it was ever there at all). This may be a bug that happens if you do things in a certain order. Or it may be a bug that happens if the game randomly puts specific testimonies in different places. I didn't have the bug on my second playthrough. Thank you all for the help, and if I could get that saved game after the minesweeper puzzle - that would be great ! I'm unsure if saves are transferrable, and since there is an autosave, you'd need the save from someone who exited the game after finishing the Minesweeper, but before going on to finish the game. I'm going to replay to check that the testimonies are the same between games. I was going to skip the last bit (with that awful Minesweeper), but I'll see if there is a chance to exit the game after doing the Minesweeper. Autosaves seem to be in C:\Users\ your-username\AppData\LocalLow\Microids\Subject13 (at least on 64-bit Windows 7) and have names like S13-1-SAVE-ch2v0 and S13-2-ch4v0
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/12/15 04:34 PM
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Hi Jenny100,
If possible and if you are not already past this part could you please, pretty please with honey on top, send me a save for: "The part where you have to make your own Compass", I have everything except the Battery, why? because when I removed the battery from the Flashlight I heard a noise figuring that it dropped into my Inventory but no such luck, I can no longer find the battery anywhere, I wrote to GOG about this yesterday but of course it is too early for them to respond and will probably not get one until at least Monday.
Thanks and of course I understand if this is not possible, just crossing my fingers and praying for a small miracle.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/12/15 05:31 PM
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Sureshot, there's so much that happens automatically after you finish the Minesweeper that you'd be better off watching the end of the YouTube playthrough. For example, this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstJV0CpHZ8&list=PLv_2SQLNWWxaossQXbsojOB5nY8f651jF&index=9 I don't know whether the Minesweeper can save progress in an almost-finished state, though I could test to find out. Starcom, I discovered that you can replay a level by deleting your most recent save. Saves on 64-bit Windows 7 are in C:\Users\ your-username\AppData\LocalLow\Microids\Subject13 In the playthrough I finished today, the crank thing that allows you to open the chest with the fishing pole didn't show up inside the organ. However by deleting the most recent save, I only had to replay the current level instead of the whole game. This game seems to have problems with missing and losing inventory.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/12/15 10:21 PM
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 Thank you so much Jenny your advice worked like a charm and I have finished the Compass and got my Anchor and now I can move on. The only thing that is scary is that you mention that it is common to loose Inventory items in this game, fingers crossed this is the 1st and only one for me. One little note or tidbit, your advice regarding the Path to finding the save files for Win 7 64 bit is also the same path for Window 8.1 64 bit. Again, a super duper big thanks for taking the time to answer my plea for help.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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Well I tried and re-tried this Ludicrous Super Minesweeper Puzzle and I agree 100% with sureshot's comments about this Idiotic, way overboard puzzle, I even looked at the Video Walkthrough and it took him the Entire 14 minutes of the W. to solve this puzzle. Come on Devs. you could have at the very least inserted a Solve Button after say 10 to 15 minutes, I mean really, I will be keeping an eye on your future games and will not buy until there are plenty of reviews stating that these types of ridiculous puzzles no longer exist or at the very least as I mentioned before = A Skip feature has been added. Sorry about my Rant, had to get if off my chest.
Oh and by the way Jenny100, should you happen to redo this puzzle, I would like to also get the save game for this, otherwise the game gets deleted.
Take care and have a nice weekend.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/13/15 08:26 PM
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Folks ! I am NOT going top play the Minesweeper puzzle. I am going to watch the You-Tube play through and be done with it as per your suggestions. Then, I too, am going to be very careful with buying games from this developer! I started to really like this game - it had potential but the Developer blew it big time !!! I hate the autosave feature where you cannot go back and replay anything!! I have two PC's I use - I tried copying the saved games from one PC in my office ( yea - I play at lunchtime  ) and put them in the proper directory on my home PC but I could NOT continue playing from where I left off!! I even deleted all the saves and replaced them with the most current ones, but the game did NOT recognize them and started from the very beginning ! What a shame - this could have been a very nice game but there are way too many bugs and playing became a frustration........NOT FUN  I had to rant and vent too.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/14/15 09:14 AM
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I have two PC's I use - I tried copying the saved games from one PC in my office... and put them in the proper directory on my home PC but I could NOT continue playing from where I left off!! I even deleted all the saves and replaced them with the most current ones, but the game did NOT recognize them and started from the very beginning ! That's too bad. If saves aren't transferrable between computers, a save for the Minesweeper with squares mostly filled in wouldn't help -- even if I were able to get one. EDIT -- I see GOG now has a Patch 1.2 for the game available for download.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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I have two PC's I use - I tried copying the saved games from one PC in my office ( yea - I play at lunchtime  ) and put them in the proper directory on my home PC but I could NOT continue playing from where I left off!! I even deleted all the saves and replaced them with the most current ones, but the game did NOT recognize them and started from the very beginning ! The saving system of this game is tricky! Not only saves are located in 'C:\Users\*user*\AppData\LocalLow\Microids\Subject13', but there is also a registry key that tells the game which save should be loaded from that location. It took me some tries to solve that riddle  I had to edit some registry key to tell the game to load chapter 4 from my save, not chapter 1.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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Thank you Iurii - what Hive and key is it hiding in? I am curious to see if I could transfer saves from one pc to another although I wouldn't even try to finish the game - that last puzzle did not have to be that huge and frustrating.
I am a little surprised and disappointed that Microids let this one "pass" with all its bugs with the inventory items and the really poor save game features.. every other of their games I played were pretty much spot on and ran as expected and without issue for me.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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Saves from after doing the Minesweeper is uploaded here https://www.dropbox.com/s/k0z9vpq7q4d2vqr/SubSav.zip?dl=0I wasn't sure if the game used the earlier saves for the same profile, so I included them. Assuming that saves are transferrable, the game should start from Profile 3. This is after installing the Patch 1.2 that GOG had available for download.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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I'm glad you found a way to use the save. Maybe you have to have already played the game under Profile 3 to use the saves as is. Fortunately renaming fixed the issue. But it's good to know that the saves will transfer between computers. The saving system of this game is tricky! Not only saves are located in 'C:\Users\*user*\AppData\LocalLow\Microids\Subject13', but there is also a registry key that tells the game which save should be loaded from that location. It's strange that it worked for me that one time without editing the registry. When I tried it a different time, it loaded the save but all my testimonies were gone. So I had to start the game over again. After patching, the game didn't lose inventory, but I still found one of my testimonies was missing. I've also found that some testimonies may switch places between playthroughs. For example, the testimony for 14 November 2006 showed up where the 15 September 2006 was in a previous playthrough. That makes things confusing if you're trying to figure out which testimony you're missing and where it should be found.
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Re: Subject 13 Minesweeper Puzzle
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06/26/15 12:50 PM
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Hi Guys
Does anyone know where the saved games are for the Steam Download as I have checked Programmes and User folders and I cant find anything in there, I am at the dreaded Minesweeper puzzle, I have checked on youtube but the guy does it so fast I cant keep up with it,even if I pause the video, I may do the same as Sureshot and just watch the ending on youtube, this is one very frustrating and what I feel is a to long and pointless puzzle, if anyone has a save for this puzzle I would be very grateful
Cheers SAFC
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