Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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Debra, according to the Steam discussion boards They're only mandatory if you want to side with the minutemen. Otherwise they can be completely ignored. Have fun 
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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12/13/16 08:26 PM
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Actually, there are other small one off "settlements" that require minimal establishment for some quests other than the Minutemen. I originally didn't care for building settlements, then got completely obsessed with building the ultimate. Once they added more goodies to use in the settlements, it improved their aesthetics by quite a bit - You just have to experiment. It's not everyone's cup of tea though. After playing through most of the quests I started building settlements in God Mode. You have a nearly inexhaustible supply of materials and can go crazy building an ultimate structure to protect your settlers. Bethesda caught on that a lot of folks were doing that and started tweaking the algorithms to overcome super structures (like looters lobbing mini-nukes into over high fences, LOL.) Then I think they gave in and started supplying crazy add-ons in the DLC like elevators, logic switches and so on... I don't have a shot of the whole structure, but here's a couple shots of what I turned the Red Rocket service station into https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddcl02yah4xsz3u/ScreenShot35.png?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/cyois2i211661zq/ScreenShot43.png?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/xgmfgjsmfeylk1y/ScreenShot34.png?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/xucuiulq36ojnxf/ScreenShot38.png?dl=0
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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12/14/16 03:51 PM
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Pokey, I hated the initial mandatory building quests, but eventually got utterly addicted to building my settlements, especially with with the neat stuff you get in the DLC - the elevators and lighting and furniture and so on. I reckon at least 40% of my 800+ hours of gameplay were devoted to building settlements. I rebuilt some, too. Many of them had individual apartments that were fully furnished.
Yeah, okay, that's pretty obsessive. But I truly enjoyed it and some of my towns are gorgeous! I would live in them.
If I knew how to do a screenshot I could show you a couple of mine.
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
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12/14/16 08:21 PM
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Trail, I think that I have little interest in building, but I'm wondering how long it took to build that one. It looks very nice. Thanks Pokey  Actually, I don't have a clue how long that one took me to build because I did it in several game play-throughs. One of my pet peeves with FO4 is the lack of a protected home base from the get go, I mean other than the place where your "spouse-cicle" resides  I'm also not a fan of the first few levels of the game, they are somewhat of a slog in my opinion. I really like the location of the Red Rocket, so I decided to build a home base that I could use every time I started a new play-through. I began building as soon as I had access to the location and stopped at level 6 then saved a copy of the game. Instead of starting at the beginning of the game for each playthrough, I just kick in that save and went from there. During several play-throughs I made a bunch of improvements to the place, noting the changes each time. When ever I would fire up a new game using that save, I would immediately make those changes and re-save, so they would be there for future game play. By building in God Mode you don't level from building stuff - Something I thought was silly anyways. Anyhow, that means I could improve the design with each subsequent play-through based on my past experience, but still be able to archive the save with a level 6 starting character and a bigger, better home base each time.
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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Debra, I didn't start building until I was well into the game and was starting to get a trifle bored - I'd say about 200 hours in. Until that point I just slammed down a couple of the pre-made huts and a few beds, a water pump, the minimum of weaponry, and moved on. Also, in the vanilla game there is a maximum building limit for each site, which means you can't really do that much anyway. It wasn't until the DLC arrived and I discovered God Mode that I really got going.
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I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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12/16/16 09:52 PM
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Thank you Hagatha. I'm now roaming this desolate landscape and checking things out. I don't have the DLC because I've not heard many good things about most of them except Far Harbor. What's your opinion on the rest of them? Worth the money or not?
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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12/30/16 06:20 PM
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Debra, I just noticed your post. Sorry it took so long!
I LOVED the DLC that included the building stuff, but that was because I was obsessive about it. Far Harbour is definitely worth the money, I think.
I can't remember the name of the DLC that included robots, but I found it short and sweet, with a new building site, new robot crafting opportunities (craft your own robot companion -- sweet!) and a great companion - I kept her for the rest of the game, in fact.
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
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12/30/16 10:44 PM
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... I can't remember the name of the DLC that included robots, but I found it short and sweet, with a new building site, new robot crafting opportunities (craft your own robot companion -- sweet!) and a great companion - I kept her for the rest of the game, in fact. Robot DLC = Automatron  TM
“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!” ---------------- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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12/31/16 01:28 PM
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Right - Automatron.
I loved Fallout 4 and all the DLC, and played about 1,000 hours in total. That's as compared to my measly 300 hours in my just-completed game of Skyrim. I loved it, then I was bored (of course, having a massive bug that prevented Dragons from spawning in their lairs didn't help).
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
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I had that same bug crop up way back when they first released Skyrim, but I thought it was taken care of in one of the official patches. There's a mod, I think it's called "Moar Dragons" (silly name  ) that revamps the dragon respawn limitations. It's not a fix, but would at least increase your dragon encounters so you don't lose out on souls. I can't remember if it's on Nexus or Steam or if it's even still active. I'll dig around my mod lists for both and post a link. Update: OK, it is a Steam workshop mod and he's spelling it correctly now More Dragons
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“A world is supported by four things: The learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these things are as nothing, without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!” ---------------- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, from the novel Dune
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Re: Fallout 4 Question
[Re: Debra]
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Ah. Maybe I'll get back to it at some point. Not only did the dragons not spawn at their lairs, I was starting to get one dragon for every 10 hours of play, if that.
I think I'm quite ready for another adventure.
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