Re: Graphics Card Issue
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Do the 4-pins have any kind of designation on them? What is the model of the PSU?
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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That's why I was asking for the model of the PSU. If it's an older one, she may need to get a new PSU with an 8 pin GPU connector. And DEFINITELY stay away from adapters.
My older PSU does not have an 8 pin GPU connector either and I would need to replace it if I got a card like that Raedon 580.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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And this is also why you need a hefty power supply to run these high end graphics cards. Even my old GTX 260 from 2009 needed two 4-pin connections from the power supply to run.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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My PSU is a 750 watt Corsair. I would have to open my computer case to check for a model number. My current graphics card is a 7800 series Radeon and my computer is about 5 years old. The graphics card I want only has 1 8 pin connector and requires 400 watts. Thanks for warning me off about the adapter cables because that would have been my next question. Would the computer motherboard be a problem where connections are concerned? Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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It needs a PCI E x16 slot which you should make sure your motherboard has. And since your computer is 5 years old, make sure this enormous card will actually fit in your case. Your problem here is going to be that your older PSU does not have an 8-pin power connection for this card. If I got a card with an 8-pin requirement, I'd have to get a new power supply too.
At Newegg, the specs recommend a 500 watt power supply.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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For these high end graphics cards, adapters are not recommended.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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Another thing to keep in mind is that your PCI-E x16 slot on a 5 year old computer is probably 2.0 and this new card will be PCI-E 3.0. They are backwards compatible, but you are still plugging newer tech into an older MOBO. PCI express 2.0 has a peak speed of 8 GB/s. 3.0 has a peak speed of 16 GB/s. So, you might check to see if your MOBO supports PCI-E 3.0. No biggie if it doesn't, but you won't be getting everything out of that video card it's capable of.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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I was mentioning the PCI 2.0 and the PCI 3.0 as an additional thing to consider as far as the MOBO connection. You're right - it has nothing to do with her power connection issues for this very high end video card. As Jenny and I mentioned, adapters are not recommended for these high end cards.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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The adapters may be "just wires" but the power supplies are not, and they do wear out over time. Here's an article about what can go wrong with power supplies https://www.electronicproducts.com/Power...e_about_it.aspxAlso think about the power requirements that would be expected of a molex as opposed to a graphics card adapter. A molex was usually used for a hard drive or optical drive, and its power requirements wouldn't go above a certain amount. The power requirements of a graphics card might spike a lot higher during a demanding game. So with the adapter, you'd have the graphics card attempting to pull more power than the power supply was designed to produce over those two molex connectors. Whatever components the molex connectors are connected to inside the power supply would be designed for a couple of hard drives, not a high end graphics card. These components might heat up enough to melt, blow, cause the power supply to shut down, etc., at the very least wear out a lot faster. Problems might not show up immediately, but chances are they would show up soon after playing demanding games. At the very least you'd wear out the power supply a lot faster and have to buy a new one anyway.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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You shouldn't have any problem with the motherboard. The Radeon HD 7800 series has a PCI-e x16 3.0 interface, https://www.amd.com/en-us/products-site/Pages/desktop-graphics-7800.aspxThe Radeon 580 RX also has a PCI-e x16 3.0 interface. So if the HD 7800 works in your computer, so should the 580 RX. The first motherboard with PCI-e x16 3.0 slots came out in 2011 https://newatlas.com/msi-z68a-gd80-g3-motherboard/19158/So it's possible your 5-year-old motherboard might have a PCE-e x16 3.0 slot, especially if the computer was built as a gaming computer. Even if it only has a PCI-e x16 2.0 slot, the 580 RX card should work as long as the power supply supports it. If you know your motherboard model number, you can look up whether it has 2.0 or 3.0.
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Re: Graphics Card Issue
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I have a feeling her MOBO might have a 3.0 slot. As I said, they are backwards compatible, so it would be no biggie.
I knew Jenny could get into the nitty gritty of why molex cannot handle the power requirements of a high end card like this one. That's why there are dedicated direct connections from the PSU to the graphics card.
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