To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 01:57 PM
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I'm interested in how often (or not) everyone turns to a walkthrough to help them through a game. Do you print out a full walkthrough before you even start, and refer to it regularly? Or might you save a walkthrough to your hard drive and only check it as a last resort if you are really stuck, or post here at Hints for help? Or, are you brave enough to refuse all help and plough through the game alone, no matter how long it may take you to complete? Personally, I try to make it as far as I can in the game without help, and then, if I'm impossibly stuck, I will save a walkthrough to my hard drive and take a furtive peep every now and then just to get me moving again. (I often find that I need to peep more frequently towards the end of a game. Impatience, or panic? Probably both!  )
"Bleat, Watson -- unmitigated bleat!" ~ Sherlock Holmes
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 02:08 PM
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Well, I am a "printer" and also download additional walkthroughs for the "if I get stuck" situations. I really enjoy playing these games but seem to lack the ability to figure things out on my own. I use the w/t like I would use a roadmap on a trip. I appreciate the people that take the time to write walkthroughs for people that are game challenged like me. Linda 
So many games, so little time.
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 03:19 PM
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I do the best I can without a walkthrough but even though I've been playing games for about six years now I still have a great deal of problems on some games. When I played Riven I had to use the walkthrough constantly.  Sometimes all I need is a push in the right direction - literally, as in go to the house or go to the museum. Just that little bit might help. But I'm the same way as Sassafrass - if I print it out I'm much more likely to cheat more often. tuesday next
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 03:26 PM
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I like to play on my own--though there are very few games that I can get all the way through without a peek at a walkthrough. I do use a WT when I have been stuck for long enough that I am totally frustrated---though I don't print them or save them--I just come back here to GB before I toss the puter out the window, and search for that one spot. Sometimes, rather than use a walkthrough, I go search hints or ask in there. I am sooooo glad the walk throughs and the hint section is here-- 
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 05:29 PM
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I'm a printer too and have 8 notebooks filled with the walkthroughs I have for the games I've bought. I try to get as far as I can but hate to get out of the game just for a little push especially with games like 80 Days where it takes so long to load and I might have to replay a lot of things I've done just to get a hint.
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 06:07 PM
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If I'm not enjoying the game I'm playing and just want to get it over with, I'll print off the walkthru so I can finish.
If I'm totally immersed in a game and am thoroughly enjoying it, and I get stuck on a difficult puzzle, I'll post a cry for help here and just ask for a hint. I have no self-control so, if I took a peek at the walkthru, I'd probably keep reading and spoil everything.
Susan
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 07:28 PM
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mine depends on what I am stuck on. Sometimes I print out a walkthrough as a last resort and sometimes I do what Susie does and cry out for help here when I am stuck. It just depends on how long I have been stuck, my patience level at the time, and where I am at in the game.
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/23/06 08:58 PM
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I have tried more than once to start to play an adventure game without a walkthrough but I am like Raylin (Linda) in that I do not get very far and cannot think on my own about what I might try next or what else to look for and get hopelessly stuck - that is one of the many reasons I am sticking with my friends here at GB and holler for help whenever and as soon as I need it, which is almost immediately and often....but my friends here love me enough to help me when they can...so I guess you could put me on that list of "those who almost NEVER play without a w/t printed out and available - plus come here for help on top of that"......I do so appreciate those of you who don't need a w/t or much if any help, cause you are the ones I look to for all the help I can get :kiss: Love, Betty Lou
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/24/06 11:19 AM
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Thanks for your comments, everyone! There are some games that, without a doubt, test one's patience to the limit and the only way out is to either use a walkthrough, or chew the furniture to splinters from sheer frustration. (Yes, Journey to the Centre of the Earth, I'm talking about YOU!  ) A game can be on such a different wavelength to your own way of thinking and logic that it can prove immensely difficult to play - whereas another gamer might breeze through it with no problems at all; it just "clicks" with them. I'm getting better at playing games the whole way through without a walkthrough, but I'm so mighty glad and grateful that they are there if needed!
"Bleat, Watson -- unmitigated bleat!" ~ Sherlock Holmes
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/24/06 11:27 AM
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I try not to use a walkthrough, but there are some puzzles that are just impossible to figure out. I'm much rather have a hint rather then the solution. I like the WT's that give you hints and say "for solution click here". That way I can try and work them out myself.
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/24/06 01:11 PM
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If possible, I prefer to use U-Hints when I get stuck. Most WTs just tell you "go here, do this, push this button" without explaining the thinking behind puzzle solutions. I really don't like that. I also don't like the sense that you're playing someone else's game, not your own. And like many people here, if I have access to a WT (or hints) I'm likely to keep playing by getting the answer rather than backing off and finally coming up with it myself, as I can usually do if no WT or hints are available.
On the other hand, there have been many times when I've looked up the answer to a palce where I've been stuck and thought, "Well, I don't feel guilty about that at all because I NEVER would have come up with that!"
WW
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/24/06 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by wysewomon: On the other hand, there have been many times when I've looked up the answer to a palce where I've been stuck and thought, "Well, I don't feel guilty about that at all because I NEVER would have come up with that!"
WW That's me WW--When I have to look, and I see the answer and I know I would have found it if I had stuck it out, then I am disappointed in myself--But when I look and know, no matter how long I tried, I would never ever go there, then I am very 
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/24/06 08:54 PM
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As one of those that are fast approaching that 'Great White Light', (and have a *yet to play* stack of about 150 game gathering dust) , I don't feel that using a walkthru after 15 minutes or so of frustration is in any way detrimental to my pleasure in the game. After all , games are for having fun, and gnashing teeth & pulling hair  really are NOT my idea of fun.
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/24/06 11:18 PM
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I agree Granny--at the point that the game is becoming work or frustrating versus fun or intriguing or absorbing, then it's time to get back to the fun by taking a look-- It's great to see how different folks play--My DS plays for the joy of overcoming a challenge so he will NOT look at a walkthrough! He will spend a month stuck on a spot and just play something else til he can figure it out. I like the satisfaction of figuring it out myself--but when I am head banging--it's time to yell Help-- 
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Re: To walkthrough... or not
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02/25/06 05:20 AM
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I also agree with so many comments here. I never print a walkthrough but I always save one to my hard drive for an emergency. I much prefer to play without one and will work a puzzle until I am totally frustrated with it before resorting to posting on gameboomers. If I don't get an answere soon enough to comfortably move on, then I do a search on the walkthrough to find the spot I need help with trying to not peek at the rest of it. I feel that walkthroughs take away some of my enjoyment when used too frequently but love the fact that they save me from abondoning a game of having the game lose its fun value when totally stuck or at a puzzle that I hate doing (like math puzzles).  I really admire those who write them. It takes dedication, the willingness to replay several times to make sure its right, not to mention getting your thoughts in order and writing it in an understandable way. It's an art. Melanie
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