There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Attempting to play "Bad Mojo" (not sure the plusses outweight the minuses right now.) As I wasn't getting very far I decided to refer to a walkthrough.
The walkthrough I tried gave a sequence of actions to get through "Bad Mojo". It didn't explain how one should have got to some of the puzzle solutions. It didn't cover alternative pathways and answers which seem to be there judging from my attempt to play "Bad Mojo". Importantly for me I didn't feel any more capable of playing "Bad Mojo" by myself than I did before reading some of the walkthrough.
What do people want from a walkthrough? Do you consider there are different sorts of walkthroughs?
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Definitely. Some walkthroughs are just a list of (do this, do that, go there, fetch that, combine those). I don't very much like those.
Others really explain what's happening and why (when you go into that room, you will notice a green lamp. Remember its shape. In the next room, there is a yellow bulb. Take it. Now go back to the kitchen and combine the yellow bulb with the blue shade to get a lamp in the same shape as the green lamp you saw). Much longer, but it helps you to learn to think the way the developers want you to, to solve their puzzles. Which means you could do the next one yourself.
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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I like the UHS hints type of walkthroughs. I'm not sure if you're used them, but they generally ask questions like:
"How do I get into this room?" then the answers come in one at a time as you click on them, like: 1 Could it be hidden somewhere? 2 Where would you hide a key? 3 did you check under the carpet? 4 The carpet is under a corner of the carpet outside the door.
I think the one you're using is a "spoiler free" walkthrough that tries really hard to not tell you anything.
BTW, Bad Mojo Redux is a great game!
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Hi  I try only to refer to a walkthrough if I get really stuck but MaG's style, and that of other regular "suppliers" here at Gameboomers, does it for me  Full instructions and sometimes pictures as well. Brilliant stuff !!  Cheers. Mad 
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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It depends on the game what help i need. Some games seem so un-logical comparing to my thinking that i am happy with MaG's detailed walkthrough. Many times, just after reading the beginning of the walkthrough i get the hang of it and finish the game without to much problems. Other games only need a UHS hinch. And of course there are games i finish without any walkthrough! 
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Morning Peter, I usually try not to use a walkthrough, but find that as soon as one is available feel a slight sense of disappointment, because I know for a fact that I will use it. I usually leave it until I am completely stuck and have tried every avenue. I get annoyed with myself because using a walkthrough shortens the game considerably, makes me lazy when I should be using the brain cells. I played Anacapri the Dream before MaG released her walkthrough and enjoyed it far more because I was able to do it myself with just a few hints from MaG. I don't use a walkthrough completely because there are many parts of a game I would miss if I didn't spend ages wandering around exploring. 
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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I find walkthroughs irresistable unfortunately. I wish I could try harder and longer before consulting one. The games are much more enjoyable if I figure them out for myself, but the last time I did that was with Simon the Sorcerer 3D. On the other hand I enjoy re-playing games when I know exactly what I'm doing and the story line flows instead of being stilted when I'm stuck.
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Hi  Although I do use walkthroughs if I get really stuck, I try to leave them inconvenient to get at .... Firstly I don't print one out Then I keep it so that if I DO need to access a walkthrough I must "quit the game" to go look at it  So obviously, I never allow myself to use that "oh so tempting" Game/Desktop Tab .... It all helps  Cheers. Mad 
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Sometimes a UHS type guide is quite useful. I like the concept, just that sometimes, I feel like using them is a brand new pixel hunt for answers. And if the game has a lot of optional gameplay, alternate path -- endings or is non-linear, a detailed save points list is brilliant. Save here! is one of the most useful tips I have gotten for more than a few games.  Doesn't tell you what to do - just here are the places where things branch off is the point. Most of the time, I lurk my way over to a busy hints forum. Since most posters are aware of the need to shield outright spoilers, it's a great way to get the nudge I need and no more. Then of course for more complete stuckness, I always look for.. - by MaGtRo, play tested, BAAGer approved all the rest are mere walkthroughs. 
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Good Questions, I like walkthroughs that are good at explaining the setting, and making observations, so that, I can stop get a hint from it, before going through a step by step to do list, I have also had the same experience as you, and left even more frustrated when I still couldnt understand, how they come to the conclusion to do the steps... would love to see more walkthroughs that set the stage, and give the inside workings of the mind that take you to the solution, I think I have seen alot of them like that at the game boomers site, I love that most the walk throughs I only need a sentance or part of one, just to get me over the slump, sometimes its just pointing out how to look at what is there,and that gets me thinking, and solving the problem myself.... I appreciate the walkthroughs, they make games possible for me, I am not always understanding the way to go..  Marcia
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Cailyn, Thank you. That's nice to hear.  I'm with you, I always look for MaG's wt's, they're the best. 
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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Re: There are walkthroughs and there are walkthroughs
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