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Tomb Raider - Croft Manor #272790
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Hi everyone,

I'm totally new to Action games and to the gamepad. I'm playing Croft Manor for practice but I'm not getting anywhere. Now I'm stuck in a room and I know I'm supposed to jump and grab a picture frame, but no matter how many times I've tried I can't do it. I'm jumping and moving the joy stick forward at the same time, but I can't grab the picture frame.

Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? Also, is there any way to pan the room other than by holding the guns?

Thanks,

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Hi funkyhippy, I haven't played the game and I don't use a gamepad, so I am absolutely no help whatsoever. But might this visual walkthrough be of help?


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Quote:
is there any way to pan the room other than by holding the guns?


Assuming you're using a dual stick controller, go into the main menu and select "gamepad". Then under "game axes", scroll through them until you see "X rotation and Y rotation". Then try it out in the game. This should allow you to look around with your right thumbstick, and move Lara with the left one. If that doesn't do what you're wanting, then go back and try some of the other game axes options until you find one that suits you smile

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Tty Stella's site here for all things tomb raider. This where go for every question about TR.


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which tombraider game are u playin? I don't remember grabbin any picture frame in crof manors

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Originally Posted By: hugh
which tombraider game are u playin? I don't remember grabbin any picture frame in crof manors


There are two pictures frames you have to jump to in Croft Manor in Tomb Raider: Anniversary. One in the central main room downstairs next to the stacked up crates and one in the library next to the room where you find the pistols.

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Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for answering. I will try to reply in order.

Nickie and Oldman, I appreciate Stella's web site, but although it will come in handy in the future, it doesn't solve my immediate problem which is to get out of the library. According to a WT I read, I'm supposed to jump and grap a picture frame, but no matter how many times I've jumped, I can't grab the frame.

Hugh, I'm playing Tomb Raider Anniversary.

Robert, thanks for the tip on the "game axes" , at the moment the right joystick does nothing, so your instructions will be very helpful and in answer to your question, I'm in the library.

Also, am I right in thinking that you don't get as many clues here as you do in Adventure games? Is one supposed to try to jump and grab things just to see if it works or if something happens?

Thanks again,

funkyhippy

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Have you tried to use your grapple in there somewhere ?


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Here are the some screenshots to show you the steps.

If you are unfamiliar with the running/jumping and grabbing, the controls are shown here

Hope this helps.


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Thanks a lot oldman, I'm going to try it right away.

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Cathy 1,

I don't have the grapple. I understand I'm supposed to shoot the ring on the lamp and I do, but nothing happens. Another strange thing is that I picked-up the silver elephant by shooting the glass, but I don't see it in my inventory.

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Originally Posted By: funkyhippy
Cathy 1,

I don't have the grapple. I understand I'm supposed to shoot the ring on the lamp and I do, but nothing happens. Another strange thing is that I picked-up the silver elephant by shooting the glass, but I don't see it in my inventory.

funkyhippy


The Elephant is not an inventory item. It's an "Artifact". When you collect the Relics and Artifacts in the game it unlocks things like custom outfits etc. It's really not necessary to get them. You can complete the game without doing so.

What "lamp" are you referring to? Are you still in the Library? Did you manage to jump and grab the picture frame, then jump back and shoot the target behind it? This sounds like you're not using the "Combat Mode Toggle" button. Go into the game's "Controls" menu (Click on Controls) and map an easily accessable button or trigger to use the Combat Mode Toggle feature. Just scroll the list until you see it, then bind it to whichever button you want on your gamepad. Then when you press that button, Lara will pull her pistols (or whatever weapon that's equipped) and automatically target any enemy or any target that she can shoot that's near her.

At the top of the Control options menu you'll see "Combat Mode". That allows you to select how you want to use the combat mode. If you set it to "manual", Lara will pull her pistols and auto-target as long as you hold down the button. When you release the button she'll put her pistols away. If you choose "Advanced Toggle", she will pull her pistols and you do not have to hold down the button. She'll put them away when you press the button again.

Did you get your right thumbstick working? It's important to do that if you're going to use a gamepad. You need to be able to look around with your right thumbstick.

You won't get the Grappling Hook until you go through the maze outside the manor.

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Robert,

I did get the right thumbstick working. My settings are: Advanced Toggle, Manual Grab On, Button 3 Jump, Button 2 Crouch, Button 1 Interact (such as reading). For the moment Button 4 does nothing, that may be because I don't have the grappling hook.

I am still in the library and have jumped I don't know how many times at the picture, but I always seem to miss. I've tried doing it from a standing position right at the edge and also to come running and jump. Nothing works.

I've tried shooting at a ring that hangs below a chandelier in the library because I seem to have read somewhere that that gives me the grappling hook. In any event, when I aim at it, the circle turns blue so I assume that means something.

I have the map to the maze and the guns.

Thanks for your patience.

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Turn "manual grab" off. Lara will then automatically reach out and grab any ledge or crevice (or picture frame) she can jump to.


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I've tried shooting at a ring that hangs below a chandelier in the library because I seem to have read somewhere that that gives me the grappling hook. In any event, when I aim at it, the circle turns blue so I assume that means something.


You must have mis-understood what you read. That "ring" in the chandelier is something you can fire your grappling hook at to climb up or swing from one place to another like Tarzan on a vine. You'll first have to get the grappling hook. Anything that lights up with a blue circle means it's for your grappling hook. Anything that lights up in a red circle is a target you can shoot at with your pistols.

P.S. I don't want to spoil anything for you, but if want you can watch the two Tomb Raider Anniversary videos (Lara Croft Combat and The Adventures of Lara Croft) in my signature below. It'll give you an idea of what's in store for you smile

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Thank you so much! The trouble was with having the Manual Grab On, now I've twice been able to grab the frame, I'm just not quick enough to do the rest, but I'll get there!

Thanks a million.

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You're welcome. Enjoy the game smile

If you run into anymore problems, just let me know.

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Help! I need some advice as to how to jump and grapple at the same time. I'm in the gymnasium and I am supposed to jump and then throw the grapple hook. I did it once (by mistake probably)but when that happened I couldn't figure-out how to make her move to one side and the other. So could someone tell me first, how do I jump and grapple? I've been making her jump and then pressing the grapple button, but she just drops to the ground. Second, once I manage to deploy the grapple, how do I swing back and forth?

Thanks!

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Funkyhippy, weren't the links on the first page of this thread of any help with that?


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nickie,

It's not that I don't understand where I'm supposed to move to, its the mechanics of it that has me stumped. If I push the buttons to make her jump and then release them and push the grapple button, she just falls. I've tried different combinations but I can't get her to jump AND grapple.

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Just jump toward the grapple target and fire the grapple while in mid-air. Only push the grapple button once (you don't have to hold the button), and do not press the button to make her let go of the rope. As for how to run back and forth along the wall, just use your right thumbstick. You just have to time it right. When she gets as far as she can run in one direction, make her run in the opposite direction. Keep doing that until she's running far enough up the wall to make your next jump. It's just going to take some practice.

The Adventures of Lara Croft video in my signature below shows me doing some wall runs and grappling.

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Hi Robert,

I am jumping and fireing immediately, but either nothing happens or I only get the grapple out partially. I've tried jumping with the thumbstick positioned to the left, releasing the jump button and pressing the grapple button - I just fall. I've tried jumping and releasing everything and pressing the grapple button - nothing, I fall. If I only push the jump button she just jumps up.

How do I make her jump sideways while shooting the grapple? And which is the button that makes her let go of the rope?

Fortunately, in Croft Manor every time you start playing she gets back her health, otherwise she'd be dead!

I've watched your video (I'm exhausted from all that running!)but that doesn't tell me in what order to press the combination thumbstick and buttons.


Thanks,

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I've just tried again. The problem seems to be that I can't keep her moving sideways. She jumps, starts deploying the grapple, but falls straigt down. What am I doing wrong? Usually when I make her jump and push the thumbstick sideways, she goes sideways, but not now.

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Are you still in the Gym in Croft Manor? If so, are you at that rock on the back wall that's on the opposite end of the room from where you came in, and having to make a backwards jump to fire the grapple at the ring on the wall? In other words, while you're holding on to the ledge, is the entrance of the gym at your 3 o'clock on the opposite end of the room?

1. Let me know exactly where you are.
2. Go into controls setup and list in order from top to bottom how you have all your buttons and triggers mapped.

I'll play through that section and see if I can see what you're doing wrong.

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Yes, I'm in the Gym, exactly where you ask, on the opposite wall to the entrance. I looked at the controls setup, all I see is Z Axis & Z Rotation; Invert Gamepad X Axis, Invert Gamepad Y Axis. I can tell you that the left thumbstick moves her, the right is the camera, the 1 button is for interacting, the 2 button is for crouching (and dropping) the 3 button is for jumping and the 4 button is for the grapple. Also, she only seems to be able to throw the grapple straight forward, is that normal?


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she only seems to be able to throw the grapple straight forward, is that normal?


Yes. That's normal. Let me go into the game and play that section. It'll take a little while, as I'll have to get the grapple hook first. I'll be back in a little while.

**edit**

I made a short video showing you how to use Grapple at the very place where you're stuck in the Gym.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ55EqNdJQA

If you don't have a broadband connection to watch that video, then I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, unless perhaps you're not jumping from the very top ledge on that rock. All you have to do is...

1. Climb to the top ledge (Jump and grab the first one, then vault up to the one above. Then climb around to the left and vault up again. That should as high as you can go)
2. Move your thumbstick to make lara look behind her.
3. Hold your thumbstick in that postion and press Jump.
4. Release jump and press Grapple (only press it once).

There is a way you can download the video if your internet connection isn't fast enough to stream it. I think it's only about 3MB in size.

Just follow the directions here...
http://keepvid.com/

You also need to install the free FLV player to play it if you download it. The FLV player is clean and doesn't have any spyware.

If you still can't get it, then I wanted you to click on "Controls" in the main menu and list how all your buttons and keys are assigned.

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