The puzzle of puzzles!
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11/25/10 11:42 AM
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Tomer
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Hey people :-)
A few days ago I wanted to show a friend of mine who hates AG and whom I always force to experience yet another one, what I decided to term "the puzzle of puzzles" (later to be described). This got me thinking, that it could be nice to have a discussion here surrounding the ultimate question:
what is your favourite puzzle to ever have solved?
Yes, a very hard question. And I don't think even the one which I titled as the puzzle of puzzles is the answer. So I decided I'll specify 3 different puzzles that, each in their own way, got me nothing else than bow to the ingeniousness behind them.
So these are my picks, after some wild thinking:
1. The moon room (I think it's called), in Kadish Tolesa, Uru. (second puzzle of the bunch). The theme of the puzzle was absoulutely beautiful - look for the hidden, the secret. It's design, the scattering of hints, it's integration with the plot and theme of the age, and the general built of it - just blew my mind away. That's the puzzle I termed "puzzle of puzzles" though there might be better :-)
2. Le Serpent Rouge, Gabriel Knight 3. What can I say? Pure pleasure to solve - immense plot-puzzle integration, brilliant execution - poetic. Simply a work of art.
3. Animals puzzle, Riven. Another masterwork. Solving it forced one to follow the natives' code system, understanding deeper and deeper the delicate plot of the world, and to search for clues scattered all around, in different forms and shapes - that could be collected just with patiance and true understanding. Amazing!
These are my 3. As you can see, the common ground between them is not having generally anything to do with inventory items/pixle hunting (maybe LSR indirectly does) - cause a good puzzle I consider to have only to do with the power of mind, and the amount of integration with the plot (if exists! :-) )
I'd definitely like to see opinions of the other members!
Tomer.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Tomer]
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11/25/10 12:36 PM
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The best one I remember solving was the broken crystal sphere in Zak McKracken where you had to find the digital audio tape and the boom box then record the sound the unbroken sphere made to open the doors of the huge face on Mars.
Monkey Kombat and the diving puzzle from Escape from Monkey Island took me forever to figure out.
The Monkey Island series puzzles. The insult swordplay from the first game was the funniest. The wanted poster and all of the other think outside the box puzzles from LeChuck's Revenge were so much fun. Discworld 1 & 2 also had some great puzzles.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Space Quest Fan]
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11/25/10 12:49 PM
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Any puzzle from Day of the Tentacle was marvellously complicated and the "frog in the throat" solution in the first Discworld definitely required lateral thinking 
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Tomer]
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11/26/10 03:47 AM
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What a good question, and a hard one to answer. But I do remember. . . getting through Myst without a walkthrough when it first came out really set my hair on fire. 
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: BeaSong]
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11/26/10 05:28 AM
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Tomer there were 2 in URU for me. The one where the creatures jump from one shell to the other in the trees and the final one with the clouds and the swirling colors!
Gerry
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Bristol]
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11/26/10 11:45 AM
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the one i have fond memories of is making oscar's limbs in syberia - that cut scene ! it was the first game i ever played , and i had no idea there were walkthroughs , or that this place existed , so i was playing totally on my own. it took me forever !
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Jenny100]
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11/26/10 01:55 PM
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I remember having trouble with the computer puzzle in Gabriel Knight 3 and several of the puzzles in Black Dahlia were very challenging. I also was proud of being able to figure out some of the Faust puzzles that I almost gave up on.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: venus]
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11/26/10 09:01 PM
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Venus,
Didn't one of the tentacles show up in Maniac Mansion too?
It's nice to be important but it is much more important to be nice.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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11/26/10 10:52 PM
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I'm surprised no-one mentioned the laser puzzle in Still Life.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
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11/27/10 01:01 AM
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I'm surprised no-one mentioned the laser puzzle in Still Life. Well it wasn't a very good puzzle. You got more relief than joy from solving it, and solving it didn't make you feel any smarter.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: BubbaJake]
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The puzzle I liked was in Riddle of Master Lu, after getting into the room below the billiard table. Build a structure to get a jewel, then work out how to leave the room!
Took me ages to suss out.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Mad]
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I had forgot about Master Lu. That was a great game with very good puzzles.
It's nice to be important but it is much more important to be nice.
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Re: The puzzle of puzzles!
[Re: Space Quest Fan]
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11/29/10 05:10 AM
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Tomer the hardest puzzle for me and not one I liked but did solve I just played in Tomb Raider (Angel of Darkness). It's the one with the "Red Ghost" that you have to stun before you can grab the painting. It was a great feeling when I did it!
Gerry
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