Strange.

It seems that the site can be accessed in US. I lknow someone in Canada can't.
It looks like the site is country specific.

The first link that you gave me wouldn't load the page, but the second one for Agon did. Thanks. I'll check it out.

The link for anuman loaded ok. I'll contact them to see if they'll honor the purchase I made. Tnanks for that, too.

And I use firefox.

Edit: I was able to send an email to anuman, but the agon site didn't have any links to send messages.

Ana, your first link wouldn't load for me and the second one set off my Malwarebytes (and did not load).

oldbroad,
it set off my Malwarebytes, too. I just right clicked the Malwarebytes icon and chose to put the numerical address on the Ignore list. After that, the second one opened right up.
Not that it was a lot of use.
There's a tiny address for the company in Budapest but no way to contact Private Moon by a link or email.

Gil.

Hi,
the official site for the Agon games is http://www.agongame.com and it links back to the Privatemoon central site.

The Agon site is under maintenance at the moment but please check directly the privatemoon site for Agon and other games:
http://gamedev.privatemoon.com/en/fomenu1/agon-the-london-scene-description

At this moment, Agon is not distriuted in a boxed version (only in Hungarian). Some English copies might still be available at Amazon however.

Pilaus, the first link doesn't load. I've been trying it since yesterday. And the second link that I also tried yesterday doesn't have contact information. There's no one I can email or call about the games I've already purchased. All that site offers is to sell the games, not to give service.

See there, that's what is going to happen. Years from now we wont have the games to replay. These download companies will not last forever. Got Ceville and Haunted in the mail this morning. Half way through BOUT. Loving it!

JohnBoy, you will have the games to play if you buy from a site that sells them without DRM and lets you burn the game to disk because the game is now yours, period.
It's the same thing as a boxed copy since you don't have to activate it with a code or online or whatever.
Just no box.

Gil.

Not too many of that type of site running yet though, traveller, and I do use the ones that are - but I have the same disquiet as Johnboy regarding the future play of "download only" or "by activation only" games

I too am somewhat dubious about not being able to have a game in my sweaty palms. While it is less expensive to produce games if they are for download only, that is no guarantee the company will be around tomorrow. And if this company sells to that company, will that company honor your right to re-download a purchased game? And if the downloaded game is protected, storage other than the HD becomes interesting.

Instead of looking at all the ramifications with using a particular marketing strategy, people look for the least expensive. Not realizing they might be setting themselves up a huge loss in the future.

Having a hard copy of a game doesn't ensure it won't require online activation. If a game on DVD uses online activation, it's no better than a download if the publisher goes out of business or decides not to support activation of their older games anymore.

For the price of a game, Homer6, you can burn every game you ever bought from a DRM-free site like GOG or DotEmu to disk.
You don't have to depend on them being there ten or twenty years from now.

We must pray that those two and any others that care about gamers who despise DRM and online activation and game managers and can live forever without Achievements stay in business and stay true to their promises.

Do we have an icon for petitioning the god of games?

Gil.

Melia,
the contact for the developer of Agon is contact@privatemoon.com . It is displayed now on the privatemoon site under Links.
Please contact them with your problem, although I understand it might be a publisher issue. Anyhow, maybe they can help.

So are there enough of us to get them to stop the download-only choice? I don't think so. I'm stuck with Agon games that I'd better not uninstall or the computer crash because I'll never get them back. GOG wasn't available at the time, I don't think. And even if they were, Agon wasn't on their site. Now that I know about burning the download to a disc, I'll be able to do it in the future. All of my executable downloads have been removed from the download folder long ago, so it's not an option.

Edit: Thanks Pilaus. I'll try it.

I appreciate your time Pilaus.


This download issue hasn't changed in years. You can view a 4 year old thread here. It isn't going away, there will be more downloads and less boxes. You can choose to download (with or without DRM) or not play some games. That is up to you.

I can remember what happend when Atari suddenly decided not to sell the Neverwinter NIghts Premium Modules anymore. And so the activation codes didn't work - but then Bioware patched these codes out in the final 1.69 patch. And yes, the community helped out as well - so I wouldn't be too worried here.

Can we play King's Quest 4 on modern day computers - yes, with the help of Good Old Games. For the Agon Games, they seem to be on Bigfish now.

I tried looking into which greek or roman god could be connected to computer games? Maybe Apollo? or Mercury? or maybe Uranus since we deal in technology here? Or maybe Jupiter since we need a bit of good also?

However, if it has something to with being online and trading, I'm sure we'll need Mercury as he/she? is the god for communication and trade as well.

Mercury (Hermes) is also the god of thieves.
Not such a bad choice when you consider that adventure gamers are used to taking everything they find in a game that's not nailed down.


Gil.

That kind of thing only happens with extremely popular games, not with adventure games which are less well known and less played. If games like Byzantine, Connections, Ripper, Lost in Time, Chronomaster, Mission Critical, RAMA, Riddle of Master Lu, and Black Dahlia had included online activation, you would not be able to play them now (unless you had the technical expertise to remove the activation requirement yourself -- or knew someone who could and was willing to take the time to do it for you). For more well-known games like the Monkey Island games or Grim Fandango, you might get some workarounds from the community, but not for most adventure games.

Mercury is an excellent choice He/it is a major puzzle in Yoomurjak's Ring!

Living in a rurual area where I can only get dial-up I also need boxed games or games on disc. All the Carol Reed games are on disc as are the Nancy Drew games. I got Lost Chronicles Zerzura on disc from Viva Media, also Anna. I do get games on disc from Amazon and Half.com.
So they are around but who knows for how much longer.

I'm finding it harder and harder to get the discs at Amazon now too. When I'm looking for a game, I go on there everyday because when they do get it, they seem to only get a few and then they're gone forever. You have to pounce on them when you see them.

I said I would not do downloads but have actually downloaded 3 games now from Steam. I wanted the games so....

And since I followed a link above a couple of days ago, every time I come into this thread my malwarebytes goes off!

I think that's Pilaus' avatar. It links back to the Agon site, and doesn't show as an image for me. My Malwarebytes kicks off too on this thread, but only on the pages where Pilaus has posted.

THat's interesting, on my browser all I get is a little image holder icon on Pilaus's avatar. I guess my browser blocks it.

Ana

I just had to tell you what Bigfish did for me today. I had written to them, giving them a copy of my games receipt for three of the Agon games - games which I knew they sold. They came back and gave me free downloads for all the games! Is that service or what?!

The only game I didn't have a receipt for was Pirates of Madagascar. I'll have to figure out something for that. But now with those three downloads, I can go to the download folder and make a copy for future use. Isn't that tremendous?!